Mastodon is an incredibly rare opportunity for open-source, non-profit, advertising-free, decentralised software to be a real contender in a category – and, if it continues to grow, even to pull many other social networks into being part of (or interoperable with) the fediverse.

It's strange to me that this isn't mentioned more in the endless opinions about features, onboarding, UX, "vibes" etc.

My post: why does every discussion focus on factors X, Y and Z, when I think factors A, B and C are also important?

Responses: more discussion about factors X, Y and Z.

@tomw There's plenty of UX experience amongst #Mastodon user (probably the most genious #UX person I've had the pleasure of working with myself, @scottjenson , being one). The biggest problem is this pervasive view that focusing on UX/onboarding is what "dot con" does. Or VCs. Or that great UX brings in the unwashed masses.

I want my wife and kids to use Mastodon. They won't if there's a smoother experience someplace else.

Focusing on UX and #onboarding is something you do for the very same reason as Mastodon really nudges you to write image descriptions.

To be inclusive.

@troed @scottjenson Yeah OK, I'm not dismissing the importance of those things. My point is that comparisons between platforms often begin and end there without taking into account all the other factors I listed.

@tomw But people never get to the stage of taking those other factors into account if the onboarding process is too hard for them.

I'm a big Mastodon evangelist but the overwhelming response I get is "I tried it & couldn't figure it out." Can't enjoy the features of the sportiest sports car if you can't get past the ignition on the test drive!

@stephstephking I can see that – and I did post in support of the easier onboarding in the app that was making a lot of people cross.

I just find it odd that things like "has no advertising" is so rarely mentioned as a positive. Instead a lot of the conversation happens as if all these different platforms are roughly interchangable, but Mastodon is harder to use.

@stephstephking
So what is so complicated about using mastodon? I just don't get it. If you don't like mastodon or don't feel comfortable here, then delete your account and find a social media site that suits you better.
@tomw

@citizencat your argument reduces down to "I'm personally fine with the status quo therefore you should leave" which is illogical, unnecessarily hostile, and adds no value to the conversation (other than signalling to others that your future comments are likely to be of equivalent low value).

You're welcome to ignore this feedback, that's entirely your choice, but I thought it'd be worth sharing in case it helps.

@tomw @davew I agree with almost everything you say, except that vibes and onboarding aren’t trivial, - especially to #ISupportBlackMastodon & #LGBTQ who play such a significant part of Twitter and Mastodon. The fact it's gets (some) discussion isn't a problem, it's a feature - one that I hope thrives.

[runs for cover]

@blabberlicious @davew Not what I meant by "vibes", I was thinking of the idea that it's full of scolds, and all that.
@tomw @trendytoots People won't admit it, but I think they like being sold off to data farmers -- not literally, but they like it when the app suggests something for them and kind of pushes them in the right direction for more engagement. Left to our own devices, we are kind of stupid and lazy, lol
@tomw I see a bunch of advertising accounts in the federated timeline. The good thing is, I can block the accounts. And none of my home feed contains adverts because I don't choose to follow any advertising accounts. I guess this is all rather pedantic.
@wtfrank I don't think that really counts as advertising, that's just people posting stuff. There is no way to pay for visibility.

The UX is just terrible - all of the software out there, Mastodon included. If you need to explain a user how to use it, it goes to show the developers have not empathized with users well. I agree that they don’t have the funds and are doing it for the love of it.

The level of users being comfortable to using your software is directly proportional to engagement.

@Deus I agree, pretty much all software sucks, it does need better UX. But at the same time, people happily use stuff like Discord, which is 10x more difficult than Mastodon.

which is 10x more difficult than Mastodon.

lol That’s pretty much why I have NEVER used it. Just couldn’t get the hang of it. It’s the same with people in my circle. The young ones use it and I know they teach other - which should not be needed.

@tomw people want to sensationalize man
@tomw imo it's really a separate category. There are numerous people from Twitter who had horrible experiences here, stayed there, and are now considering bluesky. Can #Mastodon think strategically and win those people back over? It'll be even harder the second time.
@tomw unless .social becomes so huge that it gets purchased?
@acm_redfox It's run by a non-profit so I don't think that's possible.
@tomw interesting. have seen a lot of worry about it, but I'm in no position to say.
@tomw it's just not a key selling feature, much to this open sourcerer's heart.
@mhanes This is interesting – you're right that most people aren't looking at it and saying "I must use this one, it's open source". But open source often 'wins' in the end by endurance, by still being there, because all the corporate versions get bought, sold, go bankrupt, hike their prices, add terrible features, don't do maintenance, and so on. (Wordpress is a great example of coming out on top in that way!)
@tomw there's near silence about it on Twitter now, all interest has died down after the Nov 22 migration. My guess is that it would take imminent collapse to shift users across.

@tomw I completely agree!

This list - "open-source, non-profit, advertising-free" (didn't know enough about the decentralized part) - was one of the main reasons I chose mastodon when I left twitter.

#Mastodon #TwitterMigration

@ahimsa_pdx Glad somebody did! (I think a lot of people did really, but it gets a bit lost in the discussions.)