The doors were locked.
The teachers were armed.
TN expanded firearm access.
The police arrived in minutes.
Covenant school had everything that MAGA GOP assured us prevents & stops mass shootings. And 3 babies & 3 adults were murdered in seconds.😳
IT’S—THE—GUNS
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That will never happen. Conservatives see being able to murder others as a "freedom."
@Bioalchemy13 @earthlingusa @QasimRashid @jesseliberty no, it doesn't.. At all. Every clause in the constitution is subject to limits and regulation.
The first amendment doesn't say "Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech except for laws about defamation. And really nasty porn. And CSAM. And..." But for 240 years we've read it as though it was written by sane people who wanted a functional country. Which it was.
@amoshiashwili @Bioalchemy13 @earthlingusa @QasimRashid @jesseliberty
I find it ironic that the far right thinks that the founding fathers were “just like them”. Christian, Nationalist, and Gun loving.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Washington, Jefferson, Adams, etc. we’re heavily influenced by the philosophy of Stoisicm, which led to them being, mostly, Deists. They believed in God given logic and reason.
@earthlingusa @QasimRashid @jesseliberty
You might want to look up the Federal Fire Arms act and try to explain why the gun fondlers haven't targeted THAT if the "2nd Amendment does prevent gun regulation."
@jesseliberty @QasimRashid
It needs neither. The Second Amendment needs only to be enforced as written.
Well organized militia means the Naval Militia or the National Guard…period. The NRA has too many overpaid lawyers who are paid to lose or redefine that very plain description.
@midratsam @amoshiashwili
Nope. It doesn't. Thank you again for proving my comment. The DOJ EXPlicitly states that the highest percentage of gun owners are white, male and middle aged or older.
But , here ais another one.
We assessed gun ownership rates in 2013 across the USA and the association between exposure to a social gun culture and gun ownership. We used data from a nationally representative sample of 4000 US adults, from 50 states and District of Columbia, aged >18 years to assess gun ownership and social gun culture performed in October 2013. State-level firearm policy information was obtained from the Brady Law Center and Injury Prevention and Control Center. One-third of Americans reported owning a gun, ranging from 5.2% in Delaware to 61.7% in Alaska. Gun ownership was 2.25-times greater among those reporting social gun culture (PR=2.25, 95% CI 2.02 to 2.52) than those who did not. In conclusion, we found strong association between social gun culture and gun ownership. Gun cultures may need to be considered for public health strategies that aim to change gun ownership in the USA.
We assessed gun ownership rates in 2013 across the USA and the association between exposure to a social gun culture and gun ownership. We used data from a nationally representative sample of 4000 US adults, from 50 states and District of Columbia, aged >18 years to assess gun ownership and social gun culture performed in October 2013. State-level firearm policy information was obtained from the Brady Law Center and Injury Prevention and Control Center. One-third of Americans reported owning a gun, ranging from 5.2% in Delaware to 61.7% in Alaska. Gun ownership was 2.25-times greater among those reporting social gun culture (PR=2.25, 95% CI 2.02 to 2.52) than those who did not. In conclusion, we found strong association between social gun culture and gun ownership. Gun cultures may need to be considered for public health strategies that aim to change gun ownership in the USA.
@QasimRashid In countries where guns are hard to obtain, people make their own. Bombs are easy to make using ordinary household products. Same for poisons and poison gasses. Do we ban pantyhose because women get strangled with their own pantyhose? Do we ban cars because people drive them into crowds?
Address the issue - not the symptom. Shootings are symptom - not the issue. Address the reason WHY people are killing each other but of course it's the preferred tactic of spinless people to ban the tool and claim the problem is solved without having attempted to solve the problem.
@britishtechguru Ahhh yes, who can forget the infamous pantyhose terrorist who killed 60 people in Las Vegas with pantyhose.
No one is "banning all guns." We want well regulation so only responsible people have access to guns. If that bothers you, maybe you should work on being a responsible person first.
@britishtechguru @Galliformesguy is rage simply not much of a problem in the UK, or Argentina, or Greece, or Germany, or Australia, or Japan? Did everyone else figure out the secret to a wholesome harmony that skipped over one country in particular? Big if true! Maybe the US should simply ask any of these places that don’t have a mass shooting every week or two how they’re managing that.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/school-shootings-by-country
@AmberWavesofFlame @britishtechguru @Galliformesguy
Canada manages gun violence by strict gun safety laws.
New Zealand manages gun violence by strict gun safety laws.
Australia manages gun violence by strict gun safety laws.
Japan manages gun violence by strict gun safety laws.
Noticing a trend here.
@britishtechguru @QasimRashid please give me an example of someone killing twenty people in sixty seconds with pantyhose
Otherwise it just seems like you're saying "gun regulation won't stop all human evil forever, so what's the point." And that's a pretty dumb argument so obviously I don't think you're making that. But I'm having a hard time seeing the argument you're actually making.
@britishtechguru @QasimRashid oh, so you're saying that because of my short sightedness, I'm trying to stop people from acquiring a physical object, rather than the easy problem of stopping... HUMAN RAGE.
Dude. You cannot possibly be saying 'you don't need to get rid of guns, you just have to fix human nature.' I just don't believe you can actually be saying that with a straight face.
@amoshiashwili @QasimRashid I see you are still making the same false assumption that taking away a spoon stops people getting fat.
Explain this - I am a gun owner. I have not killed anybody nor do I wish to kill anybody. I enjoy shooting different calibers at different ranges. I do not like killing anything and while I have dispatched some pests, I very much wish not to have to dispatch them. When I do, I try to be humane and often fire several shots quickly in order to reduce the distress and pain felt by the pest in question.
I have been furious at people that have done some really nasty things to me but have never wanted to harm them physically. Thus what we are talking about is not "human nature". We are talking about an acquired rage.
Where do people acquire their rage and notice not many people actually have that rage. America has millions of gun owners. Murders are rare, mass murders even rarer.
@britishtechguru @QasimRashid if you think that "guns have the same relationship with killing people as spoons have with making them fat" is a sensible thing to say I'm skeptical you own a gun. You don't seem to understand what one does or why it was created.
Or I guess you might not own any spoons?
Here's one difference. I can't really use a spoon to make you fat. Guess what I can do with a gun?
But even if your analysis made sense, I beg you - give me your plan for ending human rage.
I said before and I will repeat. I enjoy going to the range and shooting a wide variety of targets at a wide variety of distances.
I've not used black powder but it looks fun. I limit myself to a small number of calibers so I don't need to buy a larger amount of stuff - which can get expensive. I do shoot automatic guns.Never had the opportunity to fire full auto but it looks fun though I'm pretty sure a burst of full auto would burn through a lot of money.
@britishtechguru @QasimRashid I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.
But like I said, I'm willing to accept your analysis for the sake of argument. What your plan for ending human rage?
My analysis of the rage - in America - is that it seems largely based on the way the shooter has been treated by others.
While politicians whip up rage to get votes, that's challenging.
Oh, I know how rage could be reduced.
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