David B
Daily GrailNot only did Elon Musk go full psychopath today trying to publicly demean one of his (apparently now) former employees, of all people he chose *this* guy to attack, to really contrast himself with what a good human looks like.
*slow clap*
Elmo doubled down on his assholery and is current being eviscerated by his ‘target’.
Francis ☑️@dailygrail how fucked up is it that they sack people by locking them out of their equipment? Have they even sacked them if they haven't told him about it?
@wtfrank Yeah, coming from a place with decent labour laws (Australia) it just blows my mind how workers are treated as disposable junk in the US.
Elon Musk stick@dailygrail @wtfrank but freedoms!!!!
@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote@dailygrail @wtfrank less so in blue states but still not good.
Stacey Campbell@dailygrail @wtfrank Some states are better than others, but yeah, it can be fairly grim. Decades of union busting, states with "business friendly" legislatures, wildly inadequate minimum wages, etc etc.
For high-tech jobs, esp in California, the upside is that the pay is good. It's been a decade since I last checked, but the same job in say, Melbourne, paid about half what it pays in California.
Soy@wtfrank @dailygrail I think this isn't totally uncommon, companies fear vengeful insiders who just got fired. (probably a sign the company doesn't have security set up internally well however, if a single account can wreck things)
Logging in every day must be hell on the people with high anxiety.
flere-imsaho 🇺🇦@Soyweiser @wtfrank @dailygrail i think it's just a “musk being an arse” thing, not a customary behaviour – even for an american company. the usual approach (in my experience of an european employee of various american companies) is just to have a meeting with hr to finalize details, and lock the service access (where it's needed) during the meeting, while informing the employee about being locked out of the services.
Riley S. Faelan@mawhrin:
FWIW, I have taken a university course on corporate network security, and locking a user's account before telling them of their firing was taught to me as a model policy. I was quite surprised when I later got involved with writing and interpreting actual corporate security polices, and learnt that this is uncommon in real life.
My current theory is, it may be a little bit of an American thing, but it's probably more commonly a BOFH power fantasy thing.
@riley @Soyweiser @wtfrank @dailygrail yeah, bofh stories did quite a damage to young minds not realising it's a satire/power fantasy of a supreme jerk.
Paradoxically, my corporate network security lecturer was a very decent man, who believed in such a policy as 'logical', and not as a power fantasy. I had a chance to work with him later, and he was nothing like a BOFH. Alas, he died of a rare cancer a couple of years ago.
=> It's an example of a bad idea diffusing around the society, even into people who might not care for the original, bad, premises, and invent new pretexts. We also see this sort of thing often when people refuse to acknowledge the bad reasons behind the War On Drugs, and keep inventing new excuses for staying the bad course.
James Henstridge@Soyweiser @wtfrank @dailygrail Locking down accounts when an employee is made redundant or fired isn't uncommon. Not telling the employee is the weird bit.
(and in the case of Musk, seeing the payroll transfers is probably not enough of a signal: he's stopped paying a lot of bills)
@jamesh @wtfrank @dailygrail Yeah I agree, the whole 'not telling' is weird. And going all 'what did you do here' makes it just insane.
(And then there is also the weird reaction to being told he worked on the Figma SaaS. Really unprofessional)
Time well spend for a billion dollar CEO doing basic HR work, badly.
@Soyweiser I can only assume he thought Figma was some sort of play on the ‘ligma’ troll?
@dailygrail that is what I thought as well.
And Musk prob fired all the people who could have told him who this guy was, what he did, and that he should dial it down a bit.
@Soyweiser @wtfrank @dailygrail From the sound of it, he wasn't on a regular salary either: he was the owner of a company that Twitter acquired, and rather than accepting stock or a lump sum he chose to accept the buy-out in the form of a salary over a number of years.
So he was likely being paid a lot more than a typical manager, and it may not be possible to fire him without paying the remainder of the acquisition price.
@jamesh I got a thing like that from it as well. And now Musk has said was fired for his disability (while hinting at it not being a real thing). So smart move Musk, alienated a whole country, created another lawsuit, and wasted more untold hours due to a shitposting addiction.
(And created a thing which people will refer to forever. If we ever wondered what would happen to disabled people on mars, now we know).
a1
kinyutaka@Soyweiser @wtfrank @dailygrail I have worked for shitty employers before. They generally say when you are fired, not just locking the software out and hoping you figure it out.
@wtfrank @dailygrail It seems Elon Musk has been locked out of his equipment for a while…
OldHound@wtfrank @dailygrail I suspect that we’re all going to learn a lot more about Icelandic labour laws in the near future.
Rob HadleyI wonder if there's an opportunity here. Imagine if you place a piece of private medical information on a company machine, if you could claim (if locked out) that the person that locked you out has violates your right to medical privacy. Now, that may not be quite the answer, but I wonder if there's some form of poison pill that could be left that could be claimed as a legal violation if locked out. I'm grasping at straws here, but perhaps you get the general idea.
Dr Daniel, Photon Shepherd🇸🇪🇦🇺@dailygrail
*Looks around for a way to double boost this*
*Looks around for a way to double boost this*
Phil Sherry@dailygrail When someone has never been held accountable for anything in their entire privileged life, this is how they behave towards other people.
He won’t even see anything wrong with this if anyone dares to point it out to him—which they probably won’t. He’ll likely read about it, though, and describe it as some “woke shit” or some other right-wing slight which shows his ignorance.
Coyoty@dailygrail I hope Musk realizes if he pays for a company in the form of wages, then fires the seller, he still has to pay the wages.
Cat C-B@coyoty @dailygrail Doubtful.
Proxima Centauri@dailygrail This is so f* messed up. Read the whole article from BBC: https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-64871183
It's written by @jamesclayton
Not quite anonymous@dailygrail what's the context? What did Elon do?
newsorpigalElon Musk is the human embodiment of evil.
muıııo@dailygrail Is it worth going on #Twitter (whatever is publicly accessible as I no longer have an account) to look for whatever #Elmo did?
@dailygrail Uuuugh...
Bella@dailygrail elon has less legs to stand on than this guy when it comes to being a decent human being
Fábio Costa 🐇🕐🎩☕@dailygrail Space Karen is not psychopath, but a childish one that couldn't see anyone else shine
maddie (MOVED!) 
@dailygrail "That's not how you're supposed to play the game!"
Børge@dailygrail Is there an Icelandic fediverse instance yet?
yetzt@forteller i hope there .is one
Rich Puchalsky 
"go full psychopath" might imply that he hasn't done this before, but he always habitually does this. Remember the guy rescuing kids stuck in an underwater cave who he called a pedo
Leanne@dailygrail
I wonder if Elon was the inspiration for The Consultant? He certainly seems to be.
I wonder if Elon was the inspiration for The Consultant? He certainly seems to be.
Kerri Levine
Lazarou Monkey Terror 🚀💙🌈@dailygrail "Halli comes from a working class background" no wonder Elon hates him then, Elon hates the Working Class as much as he hates Black people.
TC Won't Give In To Lies
Ged|Net@dailygrail Haraldur is a BOSS! And he's spot on. 🥰
Aral Balkan@dailygrail This is the thread where he eviscerates Musk, by the way:
Willem@dailygrail Knowing Elon it is not a shock. He is a lot worse than Bezos ever was.
Dr. Fortyseven 🥃 █▓▒░
pdiff1@dailygrail Regardless of tax effects, things like this are much easier on Iceland’s scale. The entire population of Iceland is equivalent to that of a small US city. There is only one major population center in the entire country and they are in the middle of an economic tourism boom. Trying to make it a model/example for other countries or political systems is a fool’s errand. This guy is doing good. Leave it at that.
schmurnan@dailygrail I’d say it’s unbelievable, but it’s not.
Naveen Akunuri@dailygrail Has Musk pulled out the “Times’ person of the year 2021” card yet? Gonna happen soon if it didn’t yet. Social graces are not his thing
ZZ Bottom@dailygrail Despicable 
horizon187@dailygrail Truly despicable behaviour.
WesDym@dailygrail Musk is presently under the belief that his choices do not have personal consequences for him due to his great wealth and influence, and that his 'brand' is somehow improved by his sophomoric and sometimes cruel behaviour, which he perceives as 'tough'. Musk is in some ways too young, too myopic, too immature, and too ignorant to understand how much a horrible asshole he really is, and how damaging his choices are, including to him.
Carla Martin@dailygrail I think there is little that the man Musk will not stoop to. He is not really a very nice human being at all. He relates to one thing and one thing alone which is money, as far as I can see.
illogic error 🇬🇧🇪🇺@dailygrail Mounting evidence suggests that Musk is not a nice person. What he did to that man is inexcusable.
Ned Yeung@dailygrail Also, this...
Plus, check out this thread: https://twitter.com/iamharaldur/status/1633082707835080705
Tan_Hana_Dharma_Mangrwa@dailygrail Well, it's Elon and his narcissistic tweet. What's new? He always thinks like the Emperor who wears no clothes but yet always claims to be the best dressed emperor.