Slack is gone, Jira is busted, and other woes inside Elon Musk's Twitter. From @zoeschiffer and me

https://www.platformer.news/p/new-cracks-emerge-in-elon-musks-twitter

New cracks emerge in Elon Musk's Twitter

Jira went down, Slack's gone, and site performance is degraded. What's next?

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@caseynewton @zoeschiffer Funny that Slack was the “last straw”.
@jgordon @caseynewton @zoeschiffer thought the same thing
@ang6666 @jgordon @caseynewton @zoeschiffer that actually makes this feel like a troll post/leak.
@72mena @ang6666 @jgordon @caseynewton @zoeschiffer Why do you say that? I 100% get it. Not as like an only thing, but as a last straw? For sure.
@caseynewton i wouldn't know what a busted jira looks like. i think it's supposed to look like that.
@zicklepop @caseynewton i was going to say has anyone ever seen a working instance of Jira? Lol

@zicklepop @caseynewton Our running joke whenever we find something simple that still isn’t possible is “I’m sure there is a paid plugin for $1000 a month that’ll add that feature”.

Pretty sure the business model is reduce the core functionality so you can get 30% from the plug-in vendors who add it back in.

@caseynewton @zoeschiffer what are they doing? IRC and Trello? Letters and Post-it notes?
@gpowerf @caseynewton @zoeschiffer Writing down their most salient code on whiteboards.
@EshuMarneedi @caseynewton @zoeschiffer nice! Perhaps someone has a 486 or two to donate to them.
@gpowerf @EshuMarneedi @caseynewton @zoeschiffer I have a 286 but I'm all out of 5.25 disks.
@cujobyte @EshuMarneedi @caseynewton @zoeschiffer Twitter hasn't got enough money to buy floppies either :(

@gpowerf @caseynewton @zoeschiffer

Private mastodon instance.

@gpowerf I wouldn't be surprised if multiple departments were running secret Taiga/Phorge and Mattermost/Zulip installs to organize themselves.

@Spicewalla If they were actually running some Mastodon/Pleroma/GoToSocial servers as well, that would be absolutely hilarious.
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer When a company starts taking away useful tools to save pennies that's when you know things aren't going well.
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer roughly how many weeks would you say is Twitter from selling blood plasma to pay the light bill

@caseynewton @zoeschiffer

Ok, I have to say it out loud...I actually kinda like using Mattermost. But the biggest PITA is bringing outside people onto it since it's not as widely used.

But still feeling like *The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point dot gif*

@caseynewton @zoeschiffer If it was a conscious decision to kill Slack, it’s pretty reckless (and on brand) that Musk and company wouldn’t export and migrate all the conversation history, instead of severing the entire company from its knowledge base when most of the employees who held that knowledge are gone.
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer This is probably heresy to most, but I’d prefer to go back to the days of email and Trillian myself, tbh.
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer slack can be replaced (Teams - ugh) but Jira? Ouch.
@Ohiohawkeye @caseynewton @zoeschiffer Can you imagine a better time to hack Twitter?
John Chr 🏴‍☠️ (@JohnChr42)

Did you just tell the world how a few accounts could launch a "denial-of-service" attack on Twitter by repeatedly going public and private?

Nitter
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer So you’re telling us an organized campaign of thousands of accounts turning privacy on and off can take the whole house of cards down?
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@caseynewton @zoeschiffer the bird site has avian flu at this point… ☠️ 🐦
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer pretty sure for Jira, being broken is the point!
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer I’m an actual expert on this topic and I can assure you that busted is about the best you can hope for with Jira.

@caseynewton @zoeschiffer

"Jira is down" ...slight applause, then silence.

"Slack is down" ... sounds of people crying.

@caseynewton So back to email and WhatsApp?
@zoeschiffer @caseynewton one of the few things I admire about FB is that it (at least when I was there) used its own platform—very effectively—for internal communication, task management, etc. (There was a secure irc server for releases and crisis management because of an incident where FB went down hard.) The fact a social media platform uses a different, less mature, social media platform as a comms channel is just another indication Twitter was always trash.
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer Oh really, it's the slack deactivation? Not the constant catering towards far right and Putin? Not that he bows down everytime to andy ngo or ian miles cheong? No? It's the slack deactivation?
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer “applying to get out”
Wow - had not realised he’d locked them in!
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer How the heck is that site still standing at this point?
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer slack should have been gone years ago. but slack.com seems to by up and running just fine
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer I though slack was free, guess paid plans exist
@asbestosstar @caseynewton @zoeschiffer You only get like 5000 messages of search history if you don't pay up, probably numbers of users/channels limitations too. It's a freemium model.
@clacke @caseynewton @zoeschiffer oh :( in many ways discord is better from what I have used of both though especially from what you mentioned
@caseynewton @zoeschiffer
Wait til they don’t pay the email bill!