@ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic

Agree! #ElectricCars should work for their owners, not spy on us!

"Electric cars all being designed to become useless without an app controlling them is not inherent to electric car technology itself. It is a result of modern day #consumerism (capitalism) where every single business on the face of the Earth gathers data about you, and earns money from selling #ads to you. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY. This is what @pluralistic calls #enshitification."

@richardrathe @ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic

I think this statement could go far beyond cars. No device should need to "phone home" and ask if it still allowed to turn on.

I am worried about how everything needs to be connected and companies desire to continue to make money after the product is sold.

Imagine the story of the HP printer which disabled itself because the user ended their replacement ink problem. Now think about connected kitchen appliances like stove, fridge, or micro. Oh, you want to make ice? Pay an extra $300 and we can enable your ice maker. Want to use the broil feature in your oven? Pay some more. And you'll need to pay monthly or per use.

It's getting out of hand I think and we need to get governments that realize this to step in and tell them to knock it off.

@FinnleyDolfin
It's worse with water plants, wastewater plants. They have those web controlled functions subject to what we did to Iran's centrifuges.
@FisherTX14 that reminds me of this event covered on Darknet Diaries:
https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/68/
Triton – Darknet Diaries

A mysterious mechanical failure one fateful night in a Saudi Arabian chemical plant leads a cast of operational technology researchers down a strange path towards an uncommon, but grave, threat. In this episode, we hear how these researchers discovered this threat and tried to identify who was responsible for the malware behind it. We also consider how this kind of attack may pose a threat to human life wherever there are manufacturing or public infrastructure facilities around the world.

@FinnleyDolfin
Russia was handled the keys to disable the country with cyber attacks. Any more escalation in Ukraine and that will be the Russian response. They know they can't win a nuclear war and don't want to evicerate all the new assets they and the new Republican oligarchs will be given for their assistance.