@ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic

Agree! #ElectricCars should work for their owners, not spy on us!

"Electric cars all being designed to become useless without an app controlling them is not inherent to electric car technology itself. It is a result of modern day #consumerism (capitalism) where every single business on the face of the Earth gathers data about you, and earns money from selling #ads to you. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY. This is what @pluralistic calls #enshitification."

@richardrathe @ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic

I think this statement could go far beyond cars. No device should need to "phone home" and ask if it still allowed to turn on.

I am worried about how everything needs to be connected and companies desire to continue to make money after the product is sold.

Imagine the story of the HP printer which disabled itself because the user ended their replacement ink problem. Now think about connected kitchen appliances like stove, fridge, or micro. Oh, you want to make ice? Pay an extra $300 and we can enable your ice maker. Want to use the broil feature in your oven? Pay some more. And you'll need to pay monthly or per use.

It's getting out of hand I think and we need to get governments that realize this to step in and tell them to knock it off.

@FinnleyDolfin @richardrathe @ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic Part of the reason we've decided to stick with our decades-old oven and washing machines until they finally croak for good. Not only because today's offerings seem disposable in comparison, but also because I can't think of a good reason why a washing machine should check with its HQ to decide whether I can wash my laundry or not.