@ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic

Agree! #ElectricCars should work for their owners, not spy on us!

"Electric cars all being designed to become useless without an app controlling them is not inherent to electric car technology itself. It is a result of modern day #consumerism (capitalism) where every single business on the face of the Earth gathers data about you, and earns money from selling #ads to you. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE THIS WAY. This is what @pluralistic calls #enshitification."

@richardrathe @ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic

I think this statement could go far beyond cars. No device should need to "phone home" and ask if it still allowed to turn on.

I am worried about how everything needs to be connected and companies desire to continue to make money after the product is sold.

Imagine the story of the HP printer which disabled itself because the user ended their replacement ink problem. Now think about connected kitchen appliances like stove, fridge, or micro. Oh, you want to make ice? Pay an extra $300 and we can enable your ice maker. Want to use the broil feature in your oven? Pay some more. And you'll need to pay monthly or per use.

It's getting out of hand I think and we need to get governments that realize this to step in and tell them to knock it off.

@FinnleyDolfin
@richardrathe @ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic

The worst thing imo is, that it often _isn't_ "pay us, or we cut you off".

It's more like "oh yeah, we shut down the server, cause we don't sell this model anymore" or "we forgot we sold you this" or a company going bankrupt. So an appliance, that could function for 20 years is becoming useless after 5 for no real reason. That's just stupid.

@ramin_hal9001 @pluralistic @diemure @richardrathe that too. I was a beta tester for a product that had a 1TB HDD, LCD screen, and cloud storage to backup photos. It was neat but it needed the online access to function. After the beta we got to keep it, they went to market, and shut down I think a year later. They offered everyone 1TB external HDDs to download all their photos. I can’t remember the name of the thing though.