It must. It doesn't make sense that a private plane emits 15 times as much as any commercial plane.
Note also that it's likely that each of these 200 jets had more than one passenger. If we assume even 3 or 4 per jet, the relative damage looks quite a bit better, i.e., 2.5:1 or so, rather than 15:1.
@Give_A_Damn @danhomiller @realn2s @AshleyMarineP
'Trump’s tax reform means individuals & companies can write off 100% of the cost of a new or used private jet against their federal taxes.
This has helped drive the cost of flying by private jet down, enabling more jet-sharing websites & apps to pop up & increasingly attracting people who would have previously booked a business or first-class seat on a commercial flight.'
Superyachts are f🤬cking planet killers, too.
#BillionairesDon'tCare
From what I can see, studies estimate that private jets emit 5-14 times as much carbon per passenger mile than commercial passenger jets. Neither is great.
But it's a continuum - I've seen an estimate that the fuel economy per person-mile for a reasonably loaded private jet is about the same as an F-150 pickup with only one occupant. There are a whole bunch of those around here...
@Arcana @AshleyMarineP @tiskaan
I don't think it is made up. I think units are mixed up. One unit is flights/plane the other is seats.
The article https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/private-jets-environment-carbon-footprint-climate-change-harry-meghan-markle-a9071391.html mentioned in the thread explains it.
According to the article a Boing 737 uses roughly 3 times the kerosin of a typical private jet. Meaning 200 private flights are equivalent to ~60 commercial flight.
The private flights transport somewhat between 200 and 1600 passengers,
The commercial flights ~12000 passengers
I guess the point was not really about straws, more about the fact that anything you do to make things better is largely offset by selfish people that, for example, fly private jets.
@AshleyMarineP Instead of criminalizing their fuel should be taxed so high that it will work as actual wealth redistribution.
And yes I hate #PlasticStrawBan since it's utterly bad and ableist #VirtueSignalling espechally since the cup ist sill plastic-coated paper and won't be recycled and they still slap a plastic disc on top...
It's also private cars, and commercial jets, and air conditioning.
But yeah, there's no problem with plastic straws as long as they get thrown out properly, and a well managed land fill is fine.
@AshleyMarineP Remember: individualizing "responsibilities" never works but #GuiltTripping the consumer and not change systemic issue.
#Capitalism is the sickness.
#ClimateChange is just yet another symptom.
@AshleyMarineP Unless there's massive change nothing will get better...
The Government made an ad about climate change as we head into the third decade of the 21st century, and it’s surprisingly honest and informative.-*- Listen ...
@AshleyMarineP and since that would require abolishing #Capitalism - which won't happen.
If you sense that the future looks bleak, that there is little chance that this whole mess will end in joy and good humor, that there is a tiny chance that w...
Let’s go one step further: no person needs more than one billion dollars. That is an obscene amount of money.
I see your banned private jets and raise you banning anyone from being a multi-billionaire.
@AshleyMarineP unfortunately most people will focus on unimportant things like precise numbers (while they can do their own calculations) and not on private jets destroying environment more than plastic straws (which is apparent even without numbers).
But we live in capitalism - people will gladly give up straws, but not idea of owning luxury private planes one day.
@AshleyMarineP Are you saying that one, generally smaller, private jet has the same emissions as 15 commercial jets? Not per person but absolute?
Admittedly without any data I feel like that doesn't sound right. Do you have a source on that?
It must. It doesn't make sense that a private plane emits 15 times as much as any commercial plane.
Note also that it's likely that each of these 200 jets had more than one passenger. If we assume even 3 or 4 per jet, the relative damage looks quite a bit better, i.e., 2.5:1 or so, rather than 15:1.
@Give_A_Damn @danhomiller @realn2s @AshleyMarineP
'Trump’s tax reform means individuals & companies can write off 100% of the cost of a new or used private jet against their federal taxes.
This has helped drive the cost of flying by private jet down, enabling more jet-sharing websites & apps to pop up & increasingly attracting people who would have previously booked a business or first-class seat on a commercial flight.'
Superyachts are f🤬cking planet killers, too.
#BillionairesDon'tCare
From what I can see, studies estimate that private jets emit 5-14 times as much carbon per passenger mile than commercial passenger jets. Neither is great.
But it's a continuum - I've seen an estimate that the fuel economy per person-mile for a reasonably loaded private jet is about the same as an F-150 pickup with only one occupant. There are a whole bunch of those around here...
@Arcana @AshleyMarineP @tiskaan
I don't think it is made up. I think units are mixed up. One unit is flights/plane the other is seats.
The article https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/private-jets-environment-carbon-footprint-climate-change-harry-meghan-markle-a9071391.html mentioned in the thread explains it.
According to the article a Boing 737 uses roughly 3 times the kerosin of a typical private jet. Meaning 200 private flights are equivalent to ~60 commercial flight.
The private flights transport somewhat between 200 and 1600 passengers,
The commercial flights ~12000 passengers
I guess the point was not really about straws, more about the fact that anything you do to make things better is largely offset by selfish people that, for example, fly private jets.
@AshleyMarineP Instead of criminalizing their fuel should be taxed so high that it will work as actual wealth redistribution.
And yes I hate #PlasticStrawBan since it's utterly bad and ableist #VirtueSignalling espechally since the cup ist sill plastic-coated paper and won't be recycled and they still slap a plastic disc on top...
It's also private cars, and commercial jets, and air conditioning.
But yeah, there's no problem with plastic straws as long as they get thrown out properly, and a well managed land fill is fine.
@AshleyMarineP Remember: individualizing "responsibilities" never works but #GuiltTripping the consumer and not change systemic issue.
#Capitalism is the sickness.
#ClimateChange is just yet another symptom.
@AshleyMarineP Unless there's massive change nothing will get better...
The Government made an ad about climate change as we head into the third decade of the 21st century, and it’s surprisingly honest and informative.-*- Listen ...
@AshleyMarineP and since that would require abolishing #Capitalism - which won't happen.
If you sense that the future looks bleak, that there is little chance that this whole mess will end in joy and good humor, that there is a tiny chance that w...
Let’s go one step further: no person needs more than one billion dollars. That is an obscene amount of money.
I see your banned private jets and raise you banning anyone from being a multi-billionaire.
@AshleyMarineP unfortunately most people will focus on unimportant things like precise numbers (while they can do their own calculations) and not on private jets destroying environment more than plastic straws (which is apparent even without numbers).
But we live in capitalism - people will gladly give up straws, but not idea of owning luxury private planes one day.
@AshleyMarineP Are you saying that one, generally smaller, private jet has the same emissions as 15 commercial jets? Not per person but absolute?
Admittedly without any data I feel like that doesn't sound right. Do you have a source on that?
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