I've said it before and I'll say it again -- I'm not getting more liberal, but I am definitely getting more anti-"conservative," as that term is degraded and debased by the modern Right.

https://radleybalko.substack.com/p/tyre-nichols-wasnt-murdered-because

Tyre Nichols wasn't murdered because of "affirmative action"

Rather than defend an indefensible murder, right-wing pundits have latched on to a narrative that's somehow even more appalling

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@Popehat It's being debased by journalism, too -- because news orgs are using "conservative" to describe extremism. They're buying the extremists' language wholesale.
@dangillmor @Popehat While I've mostly switched over to using the term "reactionary" for the social side of it, and "fascist" for the broader political project (both are more precisely accurate, philosophically and historically), nothing we're seeing now is all that out of character from the perspective of the history of American conservatism, including its mainstream. It's just louder and less concerned with social desirability.

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Exactly. Consider William F Buckley Jr — if anyone could be said to have personified 'intellectual conservatism' it was Buckley. The guy had a national weekly show on PBS for 3 decades.

But he was such an unrepentant mccarthyite that he literally wrote and published a book of mccarthy fanfic a few years before his death.

Serious conservatism has been a thin, highly-polished veneer over this roiling, inchoate madness the entire time.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0316115894

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@Spicewalla @dangillmor @Popehat I mean, here’s Buckley talking to a bunch of New York cops in 1965, telling them the reason America’s police are disliked is because the civil rights movement is just “infatuated with revolution and ideology.” This is pure reactionary nonsense. https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Catholic_William_F_Buckley_Jr/duQjAwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=buckley+%22It+is+no+accident+at+all+that+the+police+should+be+despised+in+an+age+infatuated+with+revolution+and+ideology%22&pg=PA13&printsec=frontcover
The Catholic William F. Buckley, Jr.

William F. Buckley, Jr. was a prominent conservative American political commentator who was known for his rhetorical brilliance and frequent wit. In his eighty-two- plus years, he founded National Review, wrote fifty-five books, thousands of columns, hosted hundreds of Firing Line television shows, and became recognized as the founder of the modern conservative movement. The first major conference on William F. Buckley, Jr. was convened by the Portsmouth Institute, in 2009, specifically to explore the role William F. Buckley, Jr.'s Catholic faith played in the formation of his thought and work. This volume of the Portsmouth Review, edited by Portsmouth Institute director James MacGuire, contains the proceedings of that conference with contributions by James L. Buckley, Peter Flanigan, Father George Rutler, Maggie Gallagher, Kathryn Jean Lopez, Roger Kimball, Joseph Bottum, E.J. Dionne, Lee Edwards, Clark Judge and Neal Freeman. There are additional articles by Christopher Buckley and Doms Damian Kearney and Paschal Scotti O.S.B.William F. Buckley, Jr., though blessed with an impervious faith, was not always predictable in his Catholic views. He resisted reforms of Vatican II, questioned many of the Church’s teachings, and was the first to confess that he was no theologian. With all this in mind, The Catholic William F. Buckley, Jr. is an essential resource for understanding what animated and inspired one of the great public intellectuals of the second half of the 20st century.

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@dangillmor @Popehat It's hard to do otherwise when the US House of Representatives includes "conservative" members who are active conspiracy theorists.

At some point, the media can't ignore that and has to describe the political movement based on the behavior of its highest-ranking members (including, obviously, the one that thinks a massively-distributed electoral process run at local and state levels was somehow "stolen" from him).

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The idea of a political spectrum is so deeply embedded in the American political press.

They don't have a problem identifying multiple, competing extremist factions when reporting on foreign countries. But in the US, the only lens they've got is "liberal - centrist/moderate - conservative" and it warps their coverage of everything, not just maga but of the democrats too where actual conservative democrats like manchin are never given that label.

@Popehat Lying fascists are a dangerous and unattractive group. Most classical liberals are useless, but a lot of conservatives are actively poisonous.
@Popehat Reality (that isn't exclusively based on social darwinism) has a definitive liberal bias.

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Conservatism is becoming proto-fascism. There is nothing strange about being opposed to fascism, even if you're OK with conservatism.

@Popehat I am calling the modern right what it has become: fascism and racism. I am becoming ever more antifascist and antiracist.
@Popehat This seems to be saying I didn’t mind racism and misogyny when we all pretended it wasn’t lurking in the shadows and we all kept our language ambiguous. Now that it’s out in the open and on the bullhorns, I’d rather not be so close to it. Reagan’s “welfare queen” is no less racist then being “anti-woke”. The textbooks we grew up on were censored and DeSantis is just returning to George Wallace’s form.
@MiriShuli @Popehat Good point. I’m a Gen x’r that had a leftist hippy dad so I was taught to be aware of racism at an early age. It was very common place, but sort of under the rug. I think what makes it feel a little different is the magnitude and intensity of the backlash on what felt like some amount of progress. We were creeping forward only to have a large group of people want to take a giant step back. And be very vocal and hostile about it.
@Popehat Ken, if you get a chance, read @[email protected] 's Model Minority novella, in which 'Superman' finds out what happens in 21st century America when Truth and Justice meet the American Way, as he rescues a man from a George Floyd-esque situation with the NYPD.
@Popehat Effectively, you are getting more anti-fascist.
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Disgusting but not surprising.
@Popehat. Very few real conservatives in the United States. I have put the word in scare quotes for years.
@Popehat holy wow, I hadn't heard the brain dead affirmative action take. Even if you accept the racist assumption that they wouldn't have been hired without "lowered standards," why were they on a plainclothes anti crime task force instead of writing traffic tickets? What previous test or standard would have prevented cops who decide to beat a guy to death?
@Popehat Would you consider the Southern Strategy part of modern conservatism?

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Interesting article. Well written.

@Popehat My family is extremely conservative, and frankly there are values to a number of conservative viewpoints.

But not -these- conservative viewpoints. Not these ridiculous dehumanizing things, the sheer hatred of things that are different, the absolutely mind boggling terrible ideas (oh god the tax thing)...and frankly I'm just not going to vote for anyone who hates me for being gay.

It would be nice to have two parties, not one party and captain planet villain group.

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IDK what the Libertarian Balko's of the world have done to help the situation. They spread a mindset that the government exists mainly to protect property, and we live in a country where the group most associated with poverty and crime is Black people. Does Balko offer any perspective to interrupt the conservative narrative about Black men ("they're just more violent")? Or would citing poverty rates alongside crime rates be too Liberal for him?

@Popehat I'm not anti-conservative, I'm anti-asshole, but these days there's a whooooole lotta overlap
@Popehat Right there with you, bro.

@Popehat My dictionary defines "conservatism" as "disposition to keep to established ways; opposition to change."

Let's call them what they are: Retrograde assholes (fascism, racism). They want to go backwards. There is nothing "conservative" about them.

One thing they will never understand is the only "constant" in the universe is "change." You can't go back.

Never was conservative, never will be.

@Popehat I mean not that Tucker has ever been concerned with facts, but the defunding of police never happened, at least not on any large scale. Most departments have got more money because most politicians see an increase in crime and think more law enforcement budget is the answer.
@Popehat I keep wondering what exactly they are conserving.
@Popehat I'm a conservative, and I'm getting more anti-GOP.
@Popehat Welcome to the ranks of the independents.
@Popehat I have become more liberal as I've seen policies, particularly economic ones, I espoused fail spectacularly. I've come to realize that our large, interrelated country, with vast resources needs a viable social safety net, including good healthcare available to all, strong regulation while enhancing competition in the marketplace (strong anti-trust) & real labor protections. At one time this might have made me a liberal Republican. Those days are over and the GOP is never going back.
@Popehat shouldn’t we then become more anti-Right? Condemn all conservatives for those who are right-wing may be unfair for those few who aren’t arses…
@Popehat Ditto. I pretty much dumped the GOP back when Bush said spend our way out of paying for the Iraq war.
@Popehat I nearly voted for McCain in 2008, and now I doubt I will ever vote for a Republican again.

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It's a political "optical illusion" because the GOP has really tilted the political spectrum (Fig. 2).

I don't think the Left side of the American political spectrum, in general, has moved any further left. It is just a "misconception" by the Right since the GOP has slid way further to the extreme right (Fig. 1).

@Popehat I’m getting more liberal but I’m way, way more anti-conservative.

@Popehat As best I can tell, the current Republican party is only still "conservative" on two issues: guns (in favor) and abortion (against.)

They seem to have given up on the few things that used to attract me, as a former swing voter. Things like fiscal responsibility, rule of law, US leadership around the world, etc.

I wish I had known back then that they never actually believed in that stuff: I could have become a staunch Democrat decades ago.

@Popehat As usual, Randy is spot on.
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Exactly. As the Right migrates ever deeper into la-la land, I feel myself going further left. Except, it's not true. I haven't. My beliefs and values are not that different from 20 years ago. It's the Right that's become unhinged.