Poll: I've largely given up on ideas of stopping the "U"K๐ฌ๐ง rot, until we have a #GE. You?
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๐ Which is why I want Labour to win - but NOT with an overall majority...so that they need support from pro-#PR parties to form a government...who can then twist LAB's arm to get #PR to actually happen, and - if they backslide - can threaten to withdraw support & crash the government.
That's the only way we're getting #PR IMO...
๐ Fortunately all bets are off in the few days of horse-trading after a #GeneralElection.
"I'm about to let #ForceMajeure make me do things I said I'd never do."
Maybe LAB need it to look like they were forced into #PR?
(In a "make it look like an accident, Mr. Bond" style.)
@fencoul @EPK @OliverNoble Cameron promised his own party a referendum on Europe thinking in a continuing coalition the LibDems would stop him having to do it. It doesn't do to depend on things like that.
always better to actually make the argument for the change you believe in. but of course, labour doesn't believe in any damn thing.
@StrangeNoises @fencoul @EPK @OliverNoble
Ach - I wil never defend Starmer, I think he's massively flawed in lots of ways but Labour is so screwed without playing the tory game. MSM are so right wing biased and jump down the parties throat, he just has to appear kinda bland? and not really radical to actually have a chance of getting in and making a change.
At the moment it's his to lose, I do hope this is all strategy and he comes out with a spine and some decent policies if he wins.
@StrangeNoises @deepblue1990 @fencoul @OliverNoble
I think if Starmer got into power it would be indistinguishable from the pre 2016 Tories under Cameron. Thatโs how far the middle ground has shifted.
@deepblue1990 @EPK @fencoul @OliverNoble even that makes it sound even-handed, but actually FPTP means the tories are in power here *most of the time*. Labour's opposition to #PR is about preserving their *occasional* chances to take advantage of it, vs. probably being in a coalition of progressive parties *most of the time*.
it's infuriating. (Doubly so now that most actual labour members seem to agree)
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