Kevin Yank
Anyone waiting for a good Mastodon client for macOS should go buy Spring for Mac on the App Store, then use the link in Settings → About Spring to download the beta of @MonaApp for Mac. It’s already spectacular, and developing fast. Here I have it set up to follow three timelines, including a pinned hash tag.
Jan 24, 2023 at 7:47amWeb
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp When @MonaApp comes out fully - would we need to buy again or?
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@talios @MonaApp Yes, likely I’d say. I’m okay with that to support the work being done on it, but you might not be.
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp I randomly purchased a new pair of IEMs *asleep* (and already have way toooo many) and probably spend more that on coffee - so I’m down. Just purchased Spring :)
Show threadpaulJan 24, 2023
@sentience @talios @MonaApp I really don’t want to buy a defunct (or any!) Twitter client just to try out a beta Mastodon client. Seems a bit perverse?
Show threadpaulJan 24, 2023
@sentience @talios @MonaApp Hoping to put down some cash for @ivory in next few days, and then Mona when it hits the AppStore.
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@paulpap @sentience @MonaApp @ivory Oh yeh - @ivory is looking good - so far @MonaApp looks good so far
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@talios @paulpap @sentience @MonaApp @ivory Ok - MonaApp _really_ likes to hang/deadlock every so often for me - maybe when it’s refreshing? Can’t even drag the window around at times. Hrm.
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@talios @paulpap @MonaApp @ivory I found it hung when it was requesting permission to display notifications. The prompt was hiding in the top corner of my display. Once I approved it, it didn’t hang anymore.
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @paulpap @MonaApp @ivory Interesting - no sign of prompts here - but next time it hangs will keep an eye for it! Cheers
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @paulpap @MonaApp @ivory Nope - Mona’s just locking up far too often for my likely at the moment - and no notification prompts. But to @elk for me for now.
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@talios @paulpap @MonaApp @ivory @elk Sorry to hear it! @MonaApp known issue?
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @paulpap @MonaApp it almost felt like a dns/request timeout on a blocking ui thread or something Iike that - never done Mac dev so not sure how the threading models there work
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@paulpap @talios @MonaApp If supporting a hard-working developer whose awesome Twitter app has been clobbered by Twitter’s sudden, unannounced policy change is perverse, then consider me a pervert.
Show threadpaulJan 24, 2023
@sentience Don’t get me wrong, @MonaApp looks fantastic. 😀 I just prefer the approach @ivory took to their beta testing. Open it up to as many as possible, then charge for it when it’s ready.
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@paulpap @MonaApp @ivory I can see arguments for both. Ultimately it’s your money; vote with your wallet. 👍🏻
Show threadpaulJan 25, 2023
@sentience I feel bad now that @MonaApp has been so transparent and reasonable with the pricing structure! Maybe I will buy Spring after all…
Show threadKevin YankJan 25, 2023
@paulpap @MonaApp 😆 I mean, buy it if you'll get value out of it. No need to feel bad; your posts may well have prompted them to share their plans!
Show threadMark Derricutt (talios)Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @paulpap @MonaApp Lets not kink shame :)
Show threadT L HoladayJan 24, 2023

@paulpap @sentience @talios @MonaApp

Sherlock Holmes reasons thus:

> I really don’t want to buy … just to try out …

This utterance is strong evidence that the subject is not in the Innovator market-segment category. Their presence on Mastodon is strong evidence that they is ahead of the Early Majority market-segment category. Watson, this is an Early Adopter!

Show threadlars christiansenJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp I would love to be able to do this. If you have a timeline for one specific feed, will it still appear in the main timeline? How is it done?
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@thuroe @MonaApp Click the (⋯) button at the top and choose "Add Divide View”. Then do it again. The tab controls will move to the bottom of each column, where you can control what appears in each.
Show threadjuureeJan 24, 2023
@sentience is this on compact layout? or is there any other way to get the icons at the bottom?
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@juuree Default settings. Choose “Add Divide View” from the (⋯) menu at the top. Do it multiple times for the number of columns you want.
Show threadjuureeJan 24, 2023
@sentience appreciate it!
Show threadGeorge Hammerton Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp Yeah, it’s great on Mac, iPhone, and iPad – my current go-to for everything on Mastodon.
Show threadpolduetaJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp for Apple Silicon only or Intel-based macs supported too?
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@poldueta @MonaApp The Get Info on the app bundle says it’s Universal.
Show threadpolduetaJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp Sounds promising, thanks!
Show threadaerotomJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp Spring and Mona are fantastic.
Show threadbitbonkJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp Did you try @elk? How does it compare to Elk?
Show threadSimon WaltersJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp What's "spectacular" about it? :)
Show threadwink2001Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp did u notice that Twitter clients doesn’t work?
Show threadKevin YankJan 24, 2023
@wink2001 @MonaApp Of course. I understand it’s weird to suggest that you buy a Twitter client now, when they’ve stopped working, but that’s the best way to support an independent developer who has just been burned by Twitter, and get early access to their upcoming Mastodon client.
Show threadwink2001Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp ok, then release the app and user can buy it. I hope that the dev doesn’t think that people will buy 2 apps, one of them are dead
Show threadT L HoladayJan 24, 2023

@sentience @wink2001 @MonaApp
Unless I am mistaken, Apple’s TestFlight facilitates developers’ testing in-app purchase workflow, but _not_ actually charging. This means I have to use some other way to pay for the development of applications. I think letting me buy app “A” in order to be authorized to test app “B” is ingenious.

Plus, registering for a Twitter Developer account was a painless way to get my own API keys, for use in a manner that fully complies with Twitter’s T&C 💋

Show threadT L HoladayJan 24, 2023

@wink2001 @sentience @MonaApp

@wink2001, do you have a Twitter Developer account? The App Store listing says “Requires a Twitter Developer account.” #apple #macos

Presumably this requirement is necessary in order to comply with Twitter’s rules restricting API keys exclusively to users who are not themselves personally developing a Twitter client.

Show threadaerotomJan 24, 2023
@wink2001 @sentience @MonaApp Mine’s working. Spring dev released an update that gives the possibility to set a custom label source. At first, I thought it would be something hard to manage, but it is not. So far so good. However, if I hadn’t previously bought Spring (an app I really like), I don’t think I would buy it now (due to all this tough situation created by Musk). I would rather support the dev by buying Mona when it comes out.
Show threaddavidjJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp except I’m concerned that over on Twitter, the dev has not been transparent about what is going on unlike Tapbots or Icon Factory. They are seemingly ignoring the issue and just pushing more downloads of Spring.
Show threadJason CiprianiJan 24, 2023
@davidjoz @sentience @MonaApp yea. Continuing to sell an app that will be useless in the near future (if it’s not already) as a means to get access to a beta is just… not cool.
Show threaddavidjJan 24, 2023
@mrcippy @sentience @MonaApp now it’s about setting up your own Twitter dev account to use the app. That’s just wrong and feels like a pure money grab.
Show threadJason CiprianiJan 24, 2023
@davidjoz @sentience @MonaApp I agree.
Show threadEric DannewitzJan 24, 2023
@sentience why can’t the developer put it in TestFlight? Seems dumb to pay for one app to beta test another one.
Show threadjustjoshing75Jan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp $11.99 no thank you
Show threadMieszko ŚlusarczykJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp Do you plan on discounting Mona app to Spring users once it's released?
Show threadKevin CJan 24, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp I did this over the weekend too. I tried out Spring Lite first, which is mostly just a demo app (https://apps.apple.com/us/app/spring-lite-for-twitter/id1637405989). After trying it out for just a short time though, I went ahead an bought the full Spring app just to get access to the Mona beta. It was worth it, as Mona is most like what I’ve been looking for in a Mastodon client on iOS/iPad and macOS.
‎Spring Lite for Twitter

‎Introducing Spring Lite, the free trial edition of “Spring for Twitter” app. Use Spring Lite to try out features like: • Tweet action and tab bar customizations • App theme and accent color customizations • Custom user notes, bookmarks and mute list with automatic iCloud sync • Optimized keyboard s…

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Show threadMichael StancliftJan 25, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp is the Mac version just for M1/2?
Show threadMona appJan 25, 2023
@vmstan @sentience Also available for Intel Mac.
Show threadMichael StancliftJan 25, 2023
@MonaApp @sentience Got it going, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to get the columns setup like you have in your screenshot.
Show threadKevin YankJan 25, 2023
@vmstan @MonaApp Choose “Add Divide View” from the (⋯) menu at the top. Do it multiple times for the number of columns you want.
Show threadMichael StancliftJan 25, 2023
@sentience @MonaApp oh yeah ok, I stopped after adding the first because it put some big black line down the middle but when I added a third it went away.