Writers of all sorts of Mastodon, how do you find time to write in your work/life schedule? Do you have an accountability group? Do you have a standing date with yourself? I need to find time in my pretty full teaching week to make room for my writing, as I’m at the life point where it’s now or never! #creativewriting #writingcommunity #writing #AmWriting #fiction #writinglife #creativeprocess

@JaneEyreZH I've heard a handful of people say 500 words a day no matter what.

Some add the addendum of not a sentence more than the 500

It doesn't need to be perfect (you can edit it later) but find that 15-30 minutes to get 500 words down and you'll have a novel's worth of text in half a year.

@mvu this is really energizing to hear!! Thank you!

@JaneEyreZH Right now I don't, but I need and want all those things. A writing group (online) I was in a few years ago has drifted apart and I haven't had anything since. I miss it. Just being there and chatting about our stories was so good for inspiring and motivating.

I've wondered if such a group might be found here.

@JaneEyreZH i’ve done different things at different phases of my life. It helps to start with an honest assessment of how you’re spending your time and look for what you could cut out and replace with writing. I really cut back on television some years back, and for a while I found it hard to write at home, so I would go out to places like the library, or a coffee shop, where I couldn’t get pulled into the Home stuff.
@samanthabwriter thank you for this - television is such a time suck, and needs to be cut back- and that’s the time I could write! I love writing at coffee shops too!
@JaneEyreZH I have a couple of different scheduled writing dates throughout the week (including hosting the Barrelhouse Write-In on Fridays: https://www.barrelhousemag.com/writeins). I've worked out my ebb and flow off my week so that I have the energy and attention at those times, and then maybe grab a lunch hour here or there.
Barrelhouse Write-Ins — Barrelhouse

A write-in is where writers meet up in a chat room, and then work on their own projects. It might seem pretty basic, and it is, but it gets results. Also, it’s just fun to talk to other writers someplace besides Twitter for a change.

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@stephstephking THIS IS SO COOL!! Thank you for the recommendations!

@JaneEyreZH

I hope you'll get a lot of different ideas in response to this question! Because there's certainly not one right way and even when you find something that works for you, it won't necessarily last forever because your life will change in other ways. We all have competing obligations. Some can be dismissed. Some can't. So you give it what you can. And you forgive yourself when that isn't as much as you'd like. And you come back and try again.

@allisonwyss this gentleness with self is absolutely needed, and I’m busier this year than any other year, yet am pushing myself harder to find time to write. You give it what you can is an excellent starting place, and much less “all or nothing,” which can actually hinder everything!

@JaneEyreZH

Yeah. I just think some is better than none. And if someone can write every day or hit specific word count goals--good for them! But saying you MUST is simply not realistic for every person and only leads to guilt, which makes it harder to come back at all.

@JaneEyreZH

And those folks who CAN meet those goals and are so proud of it--I do worry about what will happen if their life upends. Most lives do at some point. I hope they'll know that what they had was good, but that if they have to take a break or change their goals or just go easy--that it's ok.

@JaneEyreZH

When I still had a day job that wasn't writing, I wrote from 5 to 7am.

That left the workday and evening hours for day job and all the extra crap that comes with teaching.

I still try to write first thing in the morning before life has much chance to interfere.

Speaking of which, the morning is ticking by really quickly on me. :)

@nlowell this is excellent advice! I’m trying to eliminate my early morning class so that I’ll have a little time in the morning- my current teaching schedule plus the additional thing I signed up to get to do has turned my hours into more a standard 9-5, which has not been playing well with my night owl tendencies! It helps me a lot to hear how others have built this into their teaching and life!
@JaneEyreZH I try to get up by 5:30 each morning and write for an hour and a half. Sometimes I slip, but I find having a standing appointment (before I get distracted by everything else) has been super helpful.
@JaneEyreZH I'm struggling to fit writing into my routine too. I'm reading Written by coaches Bec Evans and Chris Smith at the moment, and it's really useful for making me think about what sort of writing routine would actually work for me, rather than imposing rules like 'write X number of words a day no matter what'. https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/product/9781785789038
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@dipikamummery Wow!! I hadn’t heard of this book, and I’m definitely looking for this kind of thing! Thank you for your excellent advice!

@JaneEyreZH

I have a daily min wordcount of 1000 words, and I make deadlines for my work. Having deadlines help so much

@JaneEyreZH I teach part time but my day teaching job bleeds into my free time (mentally too) so can never seem to find enough time or motivation. It's not easy...
@josipa74 I’m at a 5/5 semester load, and I hear this so much! Teaching is so many things at once, and they take so much headspace! I just spent 20 years teaching and not writing creatively much/at all. My life has to have time for things I love in it, I’ve decided.
@JaneEyreZH Someone said to me long ago that 'you're either good at your job, or you have a life'. While I might not go that far, it *is* true that if you want to pursue writing, something has to give.
@JaneEyreZH I"m in a group that meets monthly at my local library, it's a small group so there's always an opportunity to ask "where did you get *that* from?" when someone's story is especially striking,
@vashafer this group is gold! Wow! Good work finding something so wonderful to take part in! ❤️
@JaneEyreZH thank you, I've been going for several years now. It's interesting to hear so many different interpretations of one topic. That and the camaraderie has been such a balm for my soul. I remember the early days of the coronavirus pandemic about destroyed me because I couldn't go to the library and see my fellow writers.
@JaneEyreZH I should probably be more dedicated with my writing. When I have both the time and inspiration I’ll write and do my best to at least finish a chapter or scene. Other times I’ll keep working on my outline and work out where I want the story to go, events I want to happen. This outline grows based on what I’ve already written
@dickrubin716 I completely hear this, and although I’m a pantser/organic writer, I have begun to outline a little more as I have less time. But you’re getting good writing done, and that’s big - wow!
@JaneEyreZH I’m starting a writing group again — helps keep me accountable too! Can’t say enough good things about having a routine: Do you write on your phone instead of scrolling in bed in the morning? Do you set aside an hr, complete with alerts, and stick to it like a date with your oldest best friend? Having some goals (sharing a thing w/ a group, submitting to a contest, performing at a stand-up event) helps too
@SpeedOfHuman this is wonderful advice!

You’d be more than welcome to join my group (I peeked at your profile & see you write spooky stories!) I plan to share my prompts with the group so that, even if you can’t join “live” you can participate asynchronously.

More info here: https://weirdwords.org/speedofhuman/announcing-weird-words-writing-groups-first-gathering

Announcing Weird Words Writing Group's First Gathering

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@JaneEyreZH

Honestly, I often don't find time. Managed to squeeze in some writing last week because I was on vacation, and had minimal distractions.

I recently replied to a post here, asking people to list the working titles of your #WIP. I listed TWELVE! 😱

Damn, I need to get moving on some of this stuff.

#creativewriting #writingcommunity #writing #AmWriting #fiction #writinglife #creativeprocess

@degroof I love that you have 12 WIPs!! Impressive and lovely for when you want to write, but need to switch to one of your other projects!
@JaneEyreZH Having a writers' group to which you're accountable is priceless. I check in with 2 other writers every single day about our writing plans ... and then our progress.
@JaneEyreZH I used to be a get-up-early-and-do-it person, but as life has felt fuller (freelance editing work, life stuff, publicity for a forthcoming novel), I've been taking my laptop to bed and writing for no more than two hours at night. Oddly, it's working really well--I'm focused, don't drink at dinner, and sleep better. Having a couple of small workshop groups also keeps me on task.

@JaneEyreZH It's changed over the years as my schedule and capabilities have changed. I used to write while sitting with the kids, waiting for them to go to sleep. Nowadays, my brain isn't working anymore that late, so I try to write in the mornings. I don't write every day, but I do think about it and muse over problems every day. This related work is still important!

I do have a critique group, & we have a spreadsheet tracking our goals and how far along we are so we can cheer each other on.

@JaneEyreZH Because my previous job was so mentally (and emotionally) exhausting, I realized the only way I was going to be able to do it was by giving "my best brain" to my writing, which meant waking up at 6am most days & writing at least a page/day. That's the only thing that has worked for me. My new job is every bit as demanding, so the same sched holds. Took some adjusting to work from home, but I have more hits than misses. When I miss? That's life. I pick back up the next day.
@roannaflowers You are completely right to target a time when you have access to your best brain- I need to figure out when that is for me. I’m on constant schedule overload this year, so maybe when I can put one thing down, I can pick up more of my best brain time! My work is taking everything right now, which means I suppose I’ve got to proceed in small chunks of time and not pressure myself so much to make it the best writing I’ve done!
@JaneEyreZH Yep! It’s all about finding what works for you. I would even work in 15m breaks or lunches when possible. Just had to try to grab whatever time I could. That ended up being harder because I had to transition back to “work brain” and found I didn’t really want to! 🤣

@JaneEyreZH I had a writing teacher who said if you can do two 15 minute writing sessions a day, 5 days a week, for the entire year, you will have about a novel and a half's worth of writing at the end of it.

I have never been able to be that disciplined, but when I was really getting crunched by my job, I committed to write at least one sentence per day. Not an intimidating goal but also enough to keep the spark alive.

@shharrison this is doable and inspiring!! Awesome!

@JaneEyreZH

Personally, I set aside writing times in my calendar. When someone asks if I can meet then, the answer is "no, I'm sorry. It's already booked."

I have also long ago found my own personal "efficiencies" - I write best in the morning, so I reserve those times for writing.

There are also a whole slew of "tricks" I learned from my creative writing background - including

(1) the vomit draft - always edit on paper (electronic paper is OK), just don't edit in your head.

(2) the "Hemingway point" - when you've written a lot for the day, stop in the middle of a sentence. That way, when you come back tomorrow, you can start writing by finishing that sentence.

(3) make it habit - don't just write when the spirit moves you

(4) rewrite by retyping / rewriting, not by moving paragraphs around, even if you are retyping the same text over

(5) make sure there is time to edit. After you've written something, put it aside for a week or a month and come back to it. (Write other stuff in the meantime see note 3.) Then rewrite [note 4] that month-old text.

Importantly, there is no one "right way" to write. Try stuff out. Your mileage will vary. Find your own personal efficiencies. And yes, your efficiencies will change as your life changes. Be prepared for that, and then go find the new efficiencies.

Oh, and (6) Don't forget to READ! Read all kinds of things - fiction, not; in-field, out; great literature, trashy literature; great science, great art. Sometimes people get so wrapped up in their own writing, particularly as other life-needs occur, they don't do enough reading.

@adredish @JaneEyreZH
Such great advice here.
@NicoleCRust @adredish @JaneEyreZH
Seconded! And for proof that these tips work, you just have to read any of @adredish ’s books! (They are great)

@adredish I need to protect my time more, and to not feel guilty about it.

We are definitely on the same page with quite a lot of similar discoveries over our writing lives (and reading lives)! Grad school messed me up a little about reading everything, and the stress of the pandemic broke that and led me back to my reading joys!

@adredish
This is really awesome writing advice! I need to print this out and put it in my lab... Thank you!

@JaneEyreZH @jpeelle

@JaneEyreZH I'm not writing at all for two years to make room to do a part time masters degree while working full time. Generally though, I don't go out much, sleep or do housework.
@paranoiapen housework and anxiety about housework is such a big drain on time and mental resources- that’s pretty wonderful to put it down!
I can relate - I quit writing when I did my dissertation, and fell in love with that kind of writing too, though it meant that I didn’t write creatively for 10 years. (I took my time with it)!

@JaneEyreZH

My freelance work limited atm
fewer fresh hours in the day post Covid etc

so
prioritise mornings as best time. Even two hours work before shower.

can be derailed from sustained fiction concentration so if something has to be in the morning make it as late as possible.

sideline things only moderately committed to

don't worry if miss a day or two but bum on seat most days essential

take laptop even when away with family for a couple of days in case

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