History in pics: Testing prototype Roomba's in 1982. It would take two decades until they could be made small enough to clean under a couch.
@SwiftOnSecurity are you saying that Crays sucked?
@PhilRandal @SwiftOnSecurity Crays sucked, and ETAs were so cold they blew liquid nitrogen.
@PhilRandal @SwiftOnSecurity Full disclosure: I worked for ETA Systems for several years until their closure by parent company Control Data Corp (CDC).
@SwiftOnSecurity looks like they were testing it to validate its interaction with washing machines in this picture for some reason?
@glyph @SwiftOnSecurity TFW when you wake from a mid-80s tech nightmare. You went to change the disk pack in the top loading hard drive for the S370 IBM. And it was full of water. The overnight banking reconciliation run would have to wait.
@jbond @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity then get your oscilloscope out to align those dipoles..
@jbond @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity how did water get in there?

@squareflair @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity

From the back of my mind. Deep in my dreams.

@squareflair @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity That was the dream world nightmare. The Real World nightmare IRL was the operator who couldn't work out why a disk pack wouldn't mount. So he took it out and tried it in the next drive. And then the next one. And now he had one pack trashed with a head crash and three drives with trashed disk heads.

ISTR they were 5Mb drives, but might have been 10Mb.

The year after that I had more disk space in my IBM PC XT than the mainframe had in one of those drives.

@jbond

is that basically like the zip drives were, a bad pack ruining good drives?

@chunter Yup. Except the disk packs were about 12" across and 6" deep.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_pack

Disk pack - Wikipedia

@jbond I've been around them but I was 7 years old and only understood them as computer memory at the time
@squareflair @jbond @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity A number of years ago I happened to be moving a data center my company acquired. I was amazed to find water lines coming up through the raised flooring. Turns out there was a line of IBM mainframes that were water cooled. As in literal water pipes going directly into the box. I donโ€™t know if that might be the case here, but itโ€™s one possibility.
@MarkAB @squareflair @jbond @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity Some Cray and Control Data mainframes of the era also had water cooling. It was a little unnerving as a programmer to get a tour in the datacenter and see the interior of a CDC 6600 with the water circulating and multiple oscilloscopes connected while the system was running. We're now coming full circle in cooling large systems. FYI, tape and disk drives, and PDU's usually took up more spaces than the processors.
@gnarlygeek @squareflair @jbond @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity I worked with DEC VAX and Burroughs/Unisys, all air cooled as far as I know. And that was back in the 80โ€™s and early 90โ€™s. I was the CFO of a small DP company and wore a lot of hats since I did the buying/selling/leasing of the equipment and facilities. We grew a lot and by the time server farms became a thing they wouldnโ€™t let me play with their toys any more.
@MarkAB @gnarlygeek @squareflair @jbond @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity I wrote software for B6700, B6900 and ClearPath monsters.
@jeffZA @gnarlygeek @squareflair @jbond @glyph @SwiftOnSecurity I think the last Unisys system I had any involvement with was a ClearPath install about 20 years ago. Once the company started building mega data centers and consolidating I went back to being a pure finance guy. You donโ€™t get much of a feel for the hardware when all you see is the Fixed Asset Request.

@glyph @SwiftOnSecurity

before they had the internet to work with they had to roll their own protocols for what we now know as โ€œinternet of thingsโ€

at least these seem to recognize the S in IoT stands for security

@SwiftOnSecurity it's easy to clean under the couch when you are the couch
@SwiftOnSecurity you can clean under the couch when you are the couch.

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But this model was perfect for all of those lifted couches in the south.

@SwiftOnSecurity So much more comfortable experience for the cat.
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I didn't realize they were first used in laundromats.
@SwiftOnSecurity Those blue washing machines though ๐Ÿคฉ .
@SwiftOnSecurity you have to appreciate how they tested it in a laundromat, a real "apple was started in a garage" story
@SwiftOnSecurity picture taken at a test course in one of the first Best Buy locations, in the washing machine department.
@SwiftOnSecurity whatโ€™s up with all the washing machines and refrigerators in the background?
@synth @SwiftOnSecurity You've found where the supply chain conspirators are warehousing large appliances!
@synth @SwiftOnSecurity Isn't that just an olde photo of Ye Olde Best Byee?
@synth @SwiftOnSecurity It's clearly a big box appliance store. See the guy in the blue shirt?
@synth @SwiftOnSecurity the laundromats of the 1980s were so filthy only a genius like Seymour Cray could solve the problem.
@synth @SwiftOnSecurity gotta test the robovac in appliance stores to generate hype
@SwiftOnSecurity I must admit, the blue trim on that row of washing machines in the background is very nice
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Also consider the blue-white washing machines on the right - these were required because the early Roomba's would leak oil consistently and required frequent washing of the clothes.
@SwiftOnSecurity yes, but on the plus side it took a long time to fill the huge vacuum containers, so it had less maintenance
@SwiftOnSecurity drawback: you can't seat on it anymore unless you're a cat
@SwiftOnSecurity Posit. People think a bank might be financially shakey...

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Surely the Cray 1 was the most stylish computer in history.

I visited one in 1978(?)

@SwiftOnSecurity it would be kind of fun to compare the compute capacity of a Cray 1 to a Roomba. Casual inspection makes me think they might be quite similar.
@SwiftOnSecurity @Cmastication Your typical iPhone is much more powerful these days.
@SwiftOnSecurity The Zuse Institute Berlin #ZIB is so big that they still got one of these for cleaning the lobby!
@ljrk @SwiftOnSecurity the benefit of the old models is that people can sit on it. The newer models are just for cats. What a downgrade!
@SwiftOnSecurity I recently sat on an incomplete prototype.

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In the early 80's a friends boyfriend worked in the server room when the small hard drives were the size of a washing machine

If we wanted extra time for a birthday drink at the pub or a decent lunchtime at a local restaurant, he'd give one or two a subtle kick and then we'd get word from management that we may as well stop what we were doing because the mainframe was down for a couple of hours

Was hard duty working close to IT professionals back in the day

@mvdn777 @SwiftOnSecurity Who remembers word processors before Autosave came along? PCs or mainframes were likely to crash at any moment (that subtle kick) and you could only recover back to your last Save.

@jeffZA @SwiftOnSecurity

Itโ€™s not that much different even now to be fair

@mvdn777 set autosave=10 minutes and forget it.
@SwiftOnSecurity Unknown to many, their initial team of designers left early and founded of a company of their own, for seating arrangements at airports and train stations.
@SwiftOnSecurity Best part of Twitter dying is getting to repost all the shitposts like they're new.
@SwiftOnSecurity they didn't have infrared and CCD sensors for navigation back then, but used c-rays until alternatives became viable.