Liam @ GamingOnLinux 🐧🎮Lol @thelinuxEXP it’s your favourite type of comment. “I don’t think it is so it’s clickbait”
@thelinuxEXP i just realised this is the same username on Reddit that calls my posts “blogspam”. So now they’re getting hidden.
Alexander Hamizdat 🌹@gamingonlinux you've just got to block "people" like that right out of the gate.
omglinux.com@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP urrrrgh, that word is the frickin' worst, bruh.
@omglinux @thelinuxEXP yeah blogspam is only ever used by Redditors whose entire personality is Redditor
BigglesThis is the way. Block early, block often.
Lucky☆Star 
April 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈:FCKAFD::bst:
Sweet_T@gamingonlinux I see a bit of hypocrisy here. "Just because you don't agree" with my definition of a major update, I will threaten to remove you from the channel.
I'm not saying "clickbait guy" was right, but yours looks like a harsh reaction to me.
I'm not saying "clickbait guy" was right, but yours looks like a harsh reaction to me.
@IamSweetT i 100% refuse to deal with these types of people and won’t give them space to be dicks
James Hammond@gamingonlinux @IamSweetT I see your point; the user could have taken 30 seconds to write more than a three line attack comment, or simply unsubscribed themselves? A six line job calling out something specific could have started a dialogue or given you an epiphany about the content itself rather than provoking the response it got.
LadyUnicornEJG@IamSweetT @gamingonlinux
"Seems like a pretty minor update to me" would be a way to disagree without being accusatory and dickish. Not really sure it's just for "disagreeing" about it.
"Seems like a pretty minor update to me" would be a way to disagree without being accusatory and dickish. Not really sure it's just for "disagreeing" about it.
@IamSweetT not only is it a reasonable reaction, it's the only reasonable reaction.
Normalize "we reserve the right to refuse (service platform etc) to anyone."
Nick "Neiloch" 
@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP Guarantee they have something in mind they were waiting for, got excited this might be it and instead of realizing that assumption was dumb they blame you.
CodexNotFound@neilochgaming @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP you are describing clickbait here. From the title they got the impression something is in the video, they didn't get it.
As long as a video title is open for interpretation (always) people will see it as clickbait. That doesn't mean they have to comment it though, since interpretation is personal.
As long as a video title is open for interpretation (always) people will see it as clickbait. That doesn't mean they have to comment it though, since interpretation is personal.
@CodexNotFound @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP Being open to interpretation doesn't make it clickbait otherwise all titles are clickbait making the entire term completely useless. Personal interpretation has nothing to do with it being clickbait or not.
It has to be lacking key context, outright false or a bad faith label to be clickbait. Malicious or severely negligent. "BIG update to Proton coming" is sufficient given the video content.
@neilochgaming @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP I guess that's a different interpretation of clickbait then.
For me, intent doesn't matter much, since you can't know intent. Making it impossible to use the term unless they admit it themselves.
If I have a video called "visit to an amusement park" showing a visit to a petting zoo. Would that be clickbait? You can't know my intent for that video title, it's technically correct, but not what people expect.
@CodexNotFound @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP If you can't tell when someone is trying to write clickbait even when given the context of the content I feel like you shouldn't be saying what is or isn't clickbait.
-You WON'T BELIEVE what happened at the park!
-I met a friendly dog at the park today
"Oh no how can we tell the difference in their intention in these titles?"
@neilochgaming @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP just looking at the title of the video in question "BIG update to proton coming" it feels like it's a lot closer to the first sample you gave. Especially when you see that it's only a minor update version wise and a regular sized update compared to other version updates. Nothing in the update screams "BIG" to me.
Using my interpretation it wouldn't be clickbait, but using your interpretation it is.
@neilochgaming @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP and I never call out clickbait (this last Toot is my first time), because it's open to interpretation.
Cykonot@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP big update to the software (version), but not a "big update" as-in big news or crazy features or whatever
@cykonot @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP when talking about version numbers that would be called a major update though. "Big update" to me only refers to the contents of the update.
Tuncay@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP Every title is clickbait, sort of. The question is, if it is misleading and have enough information?
But on the other hand, you don't have to agree on his opinion that its clickbait too! What I don't agree here is, how he lays it out, making it a bigger problem that it is and coming of so negatively. As comments like him tend to be inflammatory.
But I can kind of understand both sides of you.
@thingsiplay @thelinuxEXP as I’ve said time and time again the only people that throw around the word “clickbait” are out for a fight, i have never been proven wrong on this running a Linux community and making content for over 13 years so i refuse to let them continue
@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP I am honest here and guilty as well, as I threw the term "clickbait" too. But after confrontation with the YouTube channel owners in the comment to talk about the issue, I started to think more about it and found out it was wrong.
But I can fully understand why you are fed up with this.
So I am not here to tell how you should handle such a situation, but think of people reading it who are not on a fight. And to be fair, you did well in the screenshot. At least to me
zbecker@gamingonlinux @thingsiplay @thelinuxEXP
Tbh IMO click bait does not have to be misleading. It is just intentionally using a title that attracts clicks.
The only time clickbait is a problem, is when it is misleading.
People calling out a video for being clickbait are starting a meaningless argument.
I wouldn't call this clickbait:
Young adult white american male explaining how the desktop OS known as GNU/Linux came to have many distributions and why it is not that big of a deal
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@gamingonlinux @thingsiplay @thelinuxEXP
This I would consider click bait
Linux Fragmentation isn't a problem! Here's Why!
If the video does exactly that then it isn't misleading.
I'm specifically targeting you with this, these are just generic titles for a common video that's made. But my point is, ofc it's clickbait. It has to be due to the #YouTube #algorithm. But also, its often shorter
People calling clickbait are just adding engagement to your video.
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@zbecker @thingsiplay @thelinuxEXP i really don’t care for this discussion, it’s not engagement i want and again the only people who say it want to cause problems
@gamingonlinux @thingsiplay @thelinuxEXP
Thats fair.
BeardlyDavidI love that we’ve reached an era of online debate where whether or not the qualifier “big” applies to a software update can be a contentious issue. #thefutureisnow #itwassupposedtobeflyingcars
TKDefender 
@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP people are going to be degrading and rude. Better to just ignore them than to give them the time of day. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ticho@tkdefender @gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP You can ignore rude people as a channel viewer/visitor. If a channel owner ignores them, though, they just become bolder.
Nick @ The Linux Experiment@ticho @tkdefender @gamingonlinux I have a very liberal muting policy on my channel. Someone says something completely untrue, idiotic, offensive or the like? « hide user from the channel ». Boom, now I never have to see their comments again!
Life is too short to be annoyed!
ForeverAndaDay@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP And honestly, so what if it's clickbait? For most Youtubers, making videos is a job. Entitled people expect content creators to not make the best of a shitty algorithmic-driven platform, exchanging their much-needed income for a slightly higher quality title/better thumbnail. The unfortunate state of YT requires creators to clickbait to survive.
@gamingonlinux So annoying…
Stephen Greenham@thelinuxEXP @gamingonlinux Need to give them less of your energy. I'm loving the content 🙂
dhbirb@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP to be fair, click bait is personal. If my interpretation of a title is one thing but the video is something else than that can be seen as clickbait, even though it was never intended as clickbait.
I have not seen this video yet, but I'd say from the version numbering it's a Major update, where big refers to a large amount of changes or impactful changes.
That said, I dont think one should comment about clickbait because it's personal
Ubongabasi Jerome@gamingonlinux @thelinuxEXP people can be people sometimes 😅