Martin Woolf
Ken WhiteHamline University: sometimes, it IS cancel culture.
https://popehat.substack.com/p/hamline-university-and-cancel-culture
Lifelong Literacy Mornington@Popehat Hamline is unconditionally free to act in any manner it sees fit as an institute of education, but should drop any pretensions of being a university.
@Popehat nice to see you here!
WndlB
Mans R@Popehat Gaslighting is when people tell you cancel culture doesn't exist.
what the duck@Popehat Oh, man. That poor lecturer.
I have to say, though: Getting collectively quivery in the bowels in a hyper-defensive, reactionary way, because someone said or did something that might possibly be considered by an entirely hypothetical person to be even remotely offensive is one of the most completely Minnesotan things in existence. Just reading this reminds me why, even though there are things about that place that I dearly love and miss regularly, I was on balance incredibly happy to finally be able to move and leave so many narrow-minded scolds behind. The depths of winter have nothing on the cold, cold hearts of the joyless, nervous twits that not only hold far too many positions of authority in that state, but as can be seen by the student newspaper's response, make up far too much of the timid and ultra-conformist general population.
I love ya, #MN, but sometimes you gotta get over yourselves!!
OK, #rant over, and yes, I'm a little #PTSD about it all, why do you ask? 😅😅😅
Aaron Miller@Popehat Great article. It made me wonder about a question I’d love to see you tackle, even if it’s a bit philosophical:
Is free speech a good in itself, or a means to a desirable good?
You did that great piece on free speech pedantry. But so much of the free speech discourse hasn’t decided if free speech is the end or a means to an end. I’d love to hear your take on that.
David Lynch@Popehat mm, this one does sound a bit on the parody end of things.
jgeorge@Popehat “they don’t show the same respect that I show them” says it all.
The Cleric@Popehat I first read "untenured lecturer" as "indentured lecturer" and not finding a meaningful difference in retrospect.
Larry Garfield@Popehat Absolutely, every word.
Where is the line between accountability and "cancel culture"?
When the person doing it is being an ingenunine and selfish ass. See also, this entire story.
Avram Grumer 🎲@Popehat While you’re right that Hamline university’s response was absurd and censorious, it’s a shame that you’re lending legitimacy to the politically-driven nonsense label “cancel culture.”
@avram You mean, the concept that I spent an entire long post criticizing as usually unprincipled and misused, which I linked and referred to in this post? That cancel culture?
@Popehat Yes, that one.
I think our disagreement is that you think the term has a legit use, for which it is rarely used, and I think it’s purely a conservative booga-booga phrase.
If actual censorious moral panics are rare, we can just call ’em “censorious moral panics,” and not help the Tucker Carlsons of the world hawk their snake oil.
Solarbird 
As much as I want to jump in with "I'm with you fellers" I honestly think Avram has a point and that it's important not to cede lingustic ground - when possible not to - to the propagandist right.
See also "special rights" in the 90s, which absolutely existed for heterosexual couples, and did not for LGBT+ couples, but which we were accused of demanding.
Political-linguistic propaganda response shouldn't always be uniform - but it does tend to rhyme.
https://gfycat.com/questionablemilkyabyssiniangroundhornbill
O Brother - I'm with you fellas
Three plus or minus five@Popehat
Some context: at small universities right now, adminstrations currently trying to amass power over faculty. Letting go of adjuncts with vague warnings feeds their campaign of estabilishing domance over professors and other teachers who they want more power over.
Some context: at small universities right now, adminstrations currently trying to amass power over faculty. Letting go of adjuncts with vague warnings feeds their campaign of estabilishing domance over professors and other teachers who they want more power over.