To be clear, I don't have anything against projectors per se, but you need a dedicated space for them or else the ability to *completely* darken a room.
You will be very disappointed if you try to use one as a TV replacement for ordinary TV scenarios.
@TechConnectify Seems so!
Could have sworn you've already made one on this, thoughโฆ could have sworn.
A good opportunity to dive into different display technologies in summary. Emissive (CRT, OLED, projected LCD) v. transmissive (bare LCD) v. reflective (e-ink).
And why darkening a surface is not possible if using emissive technologies. Additive v. subtractive colour representation, as well, but that's a slightly more technical detail.
Edited to ask: touch on optimal viewing distance plz? ๐
@tnarg42 oh, the wonderful thing is I wouldn't have to purchase one!
In fact, I could tell the story about how I went through all this in 2010, helped my parents build a theater room in their home with a very nice DLP projector, and now it hardly gets any use from them because TV watching is a more casual thing for them, and I also have no desire to build another projection room for myself.
Anyway, long story short, I could just borrow theirs
@AmyZenunim @TechConnectify
In the words of our heroic saviour:
"Even a 24 kw Fresnel couldn't cast a decent image onto a sheet of black velvet at high noon in the Sahara Desert."
@gsuberland I'm aware of all this stuff, but here's the thing that I think is more important:
You don't actually have to care about those particulars if you don't want to. You can just throw a projector at a wall in a light controlled room and be very happy with the image.
It's only if you let the brainworm get into you that says you need to bother with calibration that you start to think you're unhappy with the image.
@gsuberland this is a bit of a bug bear of mine, quite frankly.
You do not need to care about this. If you start to let yourself care about this, now you've introduced cognitive load that makes the tiniest fraction of a difference in the viewing experience for you.
Just don't. Do I make my videos with calibrated monitors? Heck no! Do people care? Also heck no!
@TechConnectify Exactly. My theorized comment were I to come across something like this would be:
> Your simulated headline image is physically impossible and can only give consumers a false impression of the experience they will have. You are doing your audience a disservice in not conveying realistic expectations.
@runewake2 @Spring still, though, having experienced a nice DLP projector in a completely light controlled room and an OLED TV, I got to be honest I'll pick the OLED TV every time.
But that is a matter of priorities and preferences. If you want a really big screen relatively cheaply, projectors will win. If you're looking for image quality without going down a rabbit hole, OLED will win.
@runewake2 @Spring well yeah, and I would definitely point out that a lot of this is down to what sort of experience you want to recreate.
I still think it's pretty cool to have a projector throwing light across the room, and that was a huge draw to me convincing my parents to set up a theater room.
But my priorities have changed - now I would rather have an extremely good 65" screen than an OK 120" one with other limitations
@TechConnectify This was true of most projector TVs as well
I was never impressed with them even when they were new because most people put them in well-lit living rooms with windows.
@TechConnectify Stories like this are almost exclusively written by people with enough disposable income to have things like giant media rooms and the best possible projectors.
Nothing against success and wealth, but these stories rarely apply to most people.
@krono It's nothing to do with how good or bad the image the projector produces, it's the fact that you cannot project a darker image onto a wall than the wall itself. You can only make it brighter.
That's why this image is definitely photoshopped, and also why projectors need a very dark room or else everything looks washed out and awful
@TechConnectify There are plenty of downsides to being blind, but dealing with displays is one thing I'm very glad I don't have to worry about. Sure, it's 4K, but will it look good at that size? What? So few dimming zones? Oh no! That'll cause blooming! And the brightness is good... Oh wait, that's *peak* brightness. Let me bust out the light meter and measure the living room. But oh no, only 92% color accuracy? Hmm, but it's OLED. But then what about burn-in...
No thanks!
@alexhall lol, I like your perspective!
Though, I do feel I should point out, most people don't care about any of this crap. It's only pretty intense tech nerds who do.
I include myself (and have an OLED tv myself), but am also happy watching stuff on my mom and dad's crappy Hisense Roku TV. It's so easy to overthink stuff, and I try not to
@TechConnectify Or you could get yourself one of these setups like I have
@TechConnectify I know. ๐ Hey, it's got a billion-to-one contrast ratio, zoned everything; it's gotta be magic, right?
"Display image is simulated" to the next level. (If you're gonna fake it, how hard is it to set a layer to "additive" blending?)
@uint8_t @TechConnectify fun fact, antiphotons actually do exist
they're called photons
@uint8_t @TechConnectify my house is inside the ring of the LHC . So I meet with CERN people quite frequently. I have asked how to make a black laser for a decent projector image, but this seems quite tricky. It seems any particles that could appear black would also destroy anything they are aimed at.
The LHCb team are particularly careful to point out that antimatter beams would be horrifically destructive as well as extremely expensive.
@makegeneve @uint8_t @TechConnectify
But aren't anti-photons just the same as photons? Which might explain why anti-light isn't a thing
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