Taylor LorenzJournalists will never stick around this app long term sadly unless it adds quote posting. We desperately need it to communicate effectively, build on each others ideas, and add crucial context to posts. These are things replies simply do not accomplish. Also quote posting or reblogging does not = harassment! Tumblr, for instance, has had the feature since the beginning. We need it here now too 🙏🏻
Reblogging is organic user behavior and Twitter built the quote tweet feature because so many people were doing it manually already. It’s a huge burden on the user not to have this simple and important feature on a social platform imo (again just my personal opinion!)
John Breen@taylorlorenz I appreciate your opinion, while contending that you are wrong about this. No, you don't "need" quote tweeting, and lack of it inconveniences no-one, IMHO. It's not a "huge burden", to be sure.
@jab01701mid I specified for journalists because I do believe it is a large burden and hamstrings our ability to contextualize and build on information. Again just my opinion! 😅
Anil@jab01701mid @taylorlorenz the mastodon tools are definitely not well designed for the mainstream journalist use case. I think we can either find ones that are closer or (more likely) newer tools will arise soon that are a better fit.
Rich Stroffolino OLD ACCOUNT@anildash @jab01701mid @taylorlorenz I feel like this is why (at least an attempt) for the Gmail-version of a Mastodon server: ad monetized, comes with a specific client that addresses these perceived gaps and adds functionality to make it user friendly. I’m not saying I want that, but I can see someone trying it. Of course it could be defederated by most servers if it’s perceived as breaking/forking the protocol… chicken, egg, etc.
@jab01701mid @taylorlorenz @mranthropology a more institution-friendly fediverse server seems inevitable.
Sriram "sri" Ramkrishna - 😼@anildash @jab01701mid @taylorlorenz @mranthropology Yes, I reckon that someone will have an instance that will have a fork of mastodon that includes quoting.
I don't agree with quote posting - it frequently is used to create hot takes or for mocking posts. I've never seen it used in a way that is positive. It just generates angst. It also puts others as the middle person/gateway on a tweet and allows the rise of influencers.
Journalists need to find other ways to do their journalism.
Alex Galt 🧄@sri @anildash @jab01701mid @taylorlorenz @mranthropology
I don't dispute the thrust of what you wrote here, but it's just not the case that quote tweeting is never used positively. I've frequently seen it used (including by me) to affirm and spread great points that people have made.
@alex_galt @anildash @jab01701mid @taylorlorenz @mranthropology
Of course, good actors will use it positively - but in the aggregate when you combine it with influencers - that's where it can get abused.
I agree, I just couldn't let the idea that it was never used positively stand. I frequently find myself missing it. Boosting is good, but sometimes I like adding context and some goodwill.
@alex_galt Which you can - you just copy the link. That extra step - is just enough to stop you from doing a knee jerk reaction and writing something and posting. :-) It is kind of building that "are you SURE you want to do that?" but without actually building that into the UX 🙂
@sri Ok, I'm satisfied by that. I hadn't really thought to do it that way.