Taylor LorenzJournalists will never stick around this app long term sadly unless it adds quote posting. We desperately need it to communicate effectively, build on each others ideas, and add crucial context to posts. These are things replies simply do not accomplish. Also quote posting or reblogging does not = harassment! Tumblr, for instance, has had the feature since the beginning. We need it here now too 🙏🏻
Reblogging is organic user behavior and Twitter built the quote tweet feature because so many people were doing it manually already. It’s a huge burden on the user not to have this simple and important feature on a social platform imo (again just my personal opinion!)
John Breen@taylorlorenz I appreciate your opinion, while contending that you are wrong about this. No, you don't "need" quote tweeting, and lack of it inconveniences no-one, IMHO. It's not a "huge burden", to be sure.
@jab01701mid I specified for journalists because I do believe it is a large burden and hamstrings our ability to contextualize and build on information. Again just my opinion! 😅
Anil@jab01701mid @taylorlorenz the mastodon tools are definitely not well designed for the mainstream journalist use case. I think we can either find ones that are closer or (more likely) newer tools will arise soon that are a better fit.
Kim Crayton ~ Her/She@taylorlorenz @anildash @jab01701mid once again many regular folx, particularly from marginalized communities, are being ignored…journalists aren’t the only folx who have used QT as an effective strategy for communicating…if Mastodon is going to be anything other than a “holding space” until something better, we can’t replicate Twitter’s issue of ONLY valuing the needs of some who’re considered “important” over others whose voice need to be heard
Sriram "sri" Ramkrishna - 😼@KimCrayton1 @taylorlorenz @anildash @jab01701mid
I feel like it's a feature abused by so-called infuencers to take advantage. In some ways they even take credit. It also diminishes discourse if we rely on influencers/journalists to add their 'hot takes'.
I feel like it's a feature abused by so-called infuencers to take advantage. In some ways they even take credit. It also diminishes discourse if we rely on influencers/journalists to add their 'hot takes'.
Jen Roth ⚾ 👟@sri @KimCrayton1 There seem to be a lot of people in here who only see QTs as negative, partly because they don't listen to people who find them useful for communicating (not grandstanding). Maybe a solution could be reached that allows for the benefits while limiting the potential for abuse, but not if people just declare that QTs have no redeeming value.
@tealdeer @KimCrayton1
Sure - I think you should be forced to give attribution when you quote tweet. Many do QTs and then don't attribute the original content - and frequently people don't engage in the original post but on the influencers.
Sure - I think you should be forced to give attribution when you quote tweet. Many do QTs and then don't attribute the original content - and frequently people don't engage in the original post but on the influencers.
naught101@naught101 @tealdeer @KimCrayton1 But the conversations are redirected to that person's timeline not the original - you could for instance respond to the original post and then boost your response for engagement. For instance, you see many boosting my response on this thread - but the engagement stays on the original author's timeline.
@sri @tealdeer @KimCrayton1 that's not related to your original comment though..
And TBH on twitter I often found myself clicking the quoted tweet and then browsing the original thread an getting in to arguments, so I don't think your second point holds either.
Also there is something to be said for being able to splitting off tangential threads so that they don't derail the original discussion (but neither platform currently does this well)
enmodo ⚛️ 🧬 🇺🇦 🍉@naught101 @sri @tealdeer @KimCrayton1 I actually frequently did the opposite. I'd get into the comments, write what I thought was good stuff and then copy it to a new tweet by me. And I'd often just make that new tweet a quote tweet for context.
israel@enmodo @naught101 @sri @tealdeer @KimCrayton1 I actually many times retweet my replies when I wanted to make others aware about one topic and my position on that. Hey, I can do that in Mastodon too. I'm not missing QT, and I would not implement it after reading pros and cons.
@enmodo @naught101 @sri @tealdeer @KimCrayton1 Mastodon is not Twitter. I'm still learning it but so far I like that this is not just a clone. It had its own philosophy and it must continue to develop independent of Twitter. Different values, different product.
@enmodo @sri @tealdeer @KimCrayton1 this seems like a good use, but what would be wrong with just linking to the toot, the way people often do for blogs and news articles?