@rooster the replies to this thread are gonna be girls, either now or later
but for real if i'd thought to ask some of the cis dudes in my life how often they thought about being girls before i transitioned, i could have saved myself some time. had the conversation after with a few, and the one that i'll remember went like this:
"so have you ever thought about what it'd be like to be a woman?"
"yeah, of course. once or twice."
"a week, right?"
"no. like… ever."
@OctaviaConAmore @h5e @zmbush @rooster @Staren torn between the feminine urge to point out that "egg-cracking" culture is as good a way to shove someone back in the closet as any other unwanted interrogation of gender, and the reasonable feminine assumption that anyone in this thread is asking for it
just be a good and loud example, ladies 😇
@rooster Honestly seeing you on mastodon was one of my inspirations for exploring gender for myself beyond just "not guy". So I'd say you're doing a good job at that.
@recursive @vyr @zmbush @h5e @OctaviaConAmore @Staren @rooster oh that's a mood. I was still so incredibly drawn to queerness that I ended up in an intensely "no labels, we're just whatever" group of queer friends.
Surprise, 6 years later basically all of us have labeled ourselves and transed our genders.
@recursive @vyr @zmbush @h5e @OctaviaConAmore @rooster Since I knew I couldn't be a masculine guy but being a feminine one would make me an object of ridicule, I avoided a lot of the explorations other eggs did. 😔
...Wait, Vyr, how are you using the word here? Usually it means "a trans person who doesn't know it yet" by which definition all of us who didn't know we were really a from youngish age were eggs at some point.
@Staren @recursive @zmbush @h5e @OctaviaConAmore @rooster someone presumed to be trans and in the last stages of denial who keeps hanging out in trans spaces but is "still cis tho" if asked
there's a difference between not knowing or not being sure, and trying really hard to suppress it once you know but have convinced yourself that you could never transition for bullshit reasons, and i hear egg used to describe the second set of people more frequently than the first
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@vyr @recursive @zmbush @h5e @OctaviaConAmore @rooster Ah, yeah. I've only seen that definition of egg used on r/egg_irl, which I viewed as "closeted trans people calling themselves eggs sarcastically/humorously"
I didn't have a 'closeted' phase, (more on how my journey went here: https://cathode.church/@Staren/109561166319695134) but in retrospect I had a lot of those 'just a trans ally who is obviously trans themselves' behaviors in the few months leading up to my cracking, except for not actually being in queer spaces and not having much to say about trans people since I only knew like one and followed a couple others on birdsite.
@mouse @[email protected] My own story is... well I can talk about the clues from when I was a kid, or from when I was in my teens, or my 20s… but… Compared to others, I didn't "always know" and I barely knew any trans people… I had one online trans friend who I didn't begin to talk to a lot (or learn she was trans) until a few months before cracking, but her experience was so different from mine that didn't clue either of us in to me… A sad near miss when I looked up gender dysphoria in 2004 but the gatekeepy description used at the time didn't fit me… I concluded trans must be a hyper-rare medical condition... An ace friend encouraged me to question my sexuality in March 2021, and I concluded I was aegosexual; thought "while I'm here at the big box store, now that I've finished in the sexuality aisle I may as well check the gender aisle" and put words to how I'd always felt about my gender: cis-by-default or "cis-genderless male". I decided to present neutrally online, but I wondered why and how anyone would present neutrally *offline*, heard about agender people, and wondered what the difference in subjective experience was between that and cis-by-default. Over the following week I read trans memes on reddit, and then I saw transition timelines the day after my 36th birthday and thought "if trans people can do *that*, whatever *I* need must be achievable too"; that night at midnight I learned I'd had dysphoria since my teens. (Also, seeing all this I subconsciously learned that being trans didn't have to make you a pariah.) I frantically studied and tried to piece together my gender like a paleontologist digging up bone fragments. I speedran to HRT in 44 days, and by 2 months my identity had slid from 'agender' to 'girl'. So I kind of skipped the "I'm not a *real* trans" and closeted phases myself; as soon as I found out the potion of gender-bending was *real*, I sought it out. I had too many memories to doubt my trans-ness, only whether transition would *work*. So that's my journey, briefly…
@OctaviaConAmore @vyr @h5e @zmbush @rooster I'm new at this, having thought I was a boy until 20 months ago; I don't go out of my way to look for eggs but sometimes I find someone who just clearly wants to be a girl so badly it pulls on my heartstrings, and sometimes a friend says some stuff that makes me want to encourage them to explore...
But also, now I just have to post this: