Leo FernandinoDec 20, 2022
Russ Poldrack
This preprint outlines the shameful way in which my colleague Steven Roberts has been treated by the editor of Perspectives on Psychological Science. Please stand with me in supporting his efforts to bring diversity to psychological science. https://psyarxiv.com/xk4yu
Dec 2, 2022 at 4:31pmWeb
Show threadDebra TitoneDec 2, 2022

@Russpoldrack

This preprint is a chilling read..

#psychology
#diversity
#publishing

Show threadDaniel LakensDec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack it was quite a read. Although I look forward to reading all papers, and I might agree with some of the arguments in them, I expect, the way this forum is organized is not right.
Show threadDaniel LakensDec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack If this discussion escalates, it could lead to a divide in psychology between two schools with different approaches. There are quite fundamental disagreements on how to do science underlying this discussion. I do not see how they can be resolved philosophically, so maybe this divide is necessary.
Show threadRuss PoldrackDec 2, 2022
@lakens My thinking is guided by the work by Longino et al. on feminist philosophy of science, which has shown that diversity is one of the key reasons why science works when it does (and lack of diversity was key to why it didn't work in some circumstances, eg racist/sexist pseudoscience). so I don't really see what the legitimate "other side" of the divide would be - interested to hear your thoughts...
Show threadDaniel LakensDec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack well, the other side is the philosophers who disagree with Longino :) Which is also, as it sounds like, the perspective from which the commentaries were written. And the benefit of diversity has limits. If I think God tells us what is true, I think that is not compatible with your views on knowledge. I foresee a similar incompatibility in the role values have in science. There will be a divide, I predict. Not purely along US - Europe divisions, but largely, for another prediction.
Show threadDaniel LakensDec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack For what it is worth, I agree diversity is important, as it is a source of criticism, which is essential - I agree with that part of Longino's social epistemology. The disagreement in this forum is an example of this, but it is itself mixed in with values. But so is the article that is responded to. And I am not sure if the criticism can ever lead to consensus here.
Show threadEsther PlompDec 3, 2022
@Russpoldrack @lakens can't read the reply but it seems like Lakens is part of the problem by defending this process.
Show threadDaniel LakensDec 3, 2022
@toothFAIRy @Russpoldrack Thanks for your categorization of my actions even though you could not read what I wrote. Very useful contribution.
Show threadDaniel LakensDec 3, 2022
@toothFAIRy @Russpoldrack and, quite typical of how some academics are acting in this discussion, by the way.
Show threadT. T. PerryDec 2, 2022

@Russpoldrack

I believe high quality psychological science is incompatible with hateful discrimination, and the racism on display here is blatant. I support Steven Roberts.

Show threadMichael Demidenko 🪜Dec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack what a weird AF approach by the editor.. curious to read the forthcoming Hommel commentary. Goes to show, while some editors/reviewers can be good, others can be... yikes
Show threadprofmattdecarloDec 2, 2022

@Russpoldrack

Holy shit. I thought out editorial staff was bad in social work.

#OpenSicence #ScienceReform #peerreview

Show threadprofmattdecarloDec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack
Show threadD. G. FitchDec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack The critique of Roberts as "a toxic mix of science and ideology" is yet another version of people in a dominant ideology blindly assuming they don't have any ideology in their thinking. It's like people who claim they're not political—oh, you most certainly are, you're just living in the dominant zone so you can pretend ignorance.
Show threadD. G. FitchDec 11, 2022
A relevant article is making the rounds: https://getsyeducated.substack.com/p/you-also-have-an-ideology
You Also Have an Ideology

There is no question that we have a problem with ideology in psychology—in all of science, actually. Our work is infused with it. Although it has been a longstanding problem that people have highlighted repeatedly, awareness of the problem has certainly increased in the last couple of years.

Get Syeducated
Show threadVera KempeDec 2, 2022
@Russpoldrack Just noting that the Hommel-commentary cites papers by an author accused of at least 7 cases of scientific misconduct: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorenza_Colzato
Lorenza Colzato - Wikipedia

Show threadDr Suzy J StylesDec 3, 2022
@Russpoldrack @VeraK
Thanks for this detail 💪🏼💪🏽💪🏾
Show threadDr Suzy J StylesDec 3, 2022

@Russpoldrack @VeraK Oh and in case it’s not clear I am ALL IN on the Roberts preprint.

Not many white scholars know what it’s like to have work sidelined as ‘not interesting to a general reader’ when participants (and therefore, entire field) are non-WEIRD, even when it might actually be more globally representative current than WEIRD science that claims to be
✌️universal✌️

Show threadDr Suzy J StylesDec 3, 2022

@VeraK @Russpoldrack

Working on multilingualism we often get asked for monolingual ‘control groups,’ but in many parts of the world (including where I live and work) they don’t exist, or are a peculiar minority of the population. And yet the WEIRD establishment tells us it’s unscientific to proceed without addressing their interests.

Show threadDr Suzy J StylesDec 3, 2022
@Russpoldrack @VeraK
To watch established (WEIRD) scholars sideline legitimate critique of centrist (WEIRD) ideology and methodology as ‘political’ and potentially ‘unscientific’ without acknowledging the politics and power inherent in their own position is 😮‍💨
predictably, disappointing
Show threadDebra TitoneDec 4, 2022

@suzyjstyles @VeraK

In case you missed it..

This interesting paper addresses your point about the example of monolingual “control groups” in multilingual research..

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/applied-psycholinguistics/article/monolingual-comparative-normativity-in-bilingualism-research-is-out-of-control-arguments-and-alternatives/F6F8F482ACCB277E020F55286898C139

Monolingual comparative normativity in bilingualism research is out of “control”: Arguments and alternatives | Applied Psycholinguistics | Cambridge Core

Monolingual comparative normativity in bilingualism research is out of “control”: Arguments and alternatives - Volume 44 Issue 3

Cambridge Core
Show threadDr Suzy J StylesDec 4, 2022
@dtitone @VeraK Ooh brilliant thanks for sharing.
I have a much angrier ?draft? brewing, but YES this is the Tea!