If or when #Tumblr joins the fediverse what attitude do you think your instance should adopt:
Full federation
50%
Limited federation aka *silenced*
20.8%
No federation aka *blocked*
6.9%
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22.2%
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@fedi Ngl, I'm quite hyped with Tumblr joining the Fediverse. Not only will it help it but Automattic is quite doing a good job(better than Verizion imo)

@akatsukilevi I think it is mostly a good thing but its so big some people are worried it could flood the fediverse and drown out the existing network.

I think they could start federating by end of January.

@fedi Yeah, this is quite a concern, but I think the devs are considering it, they probably will think on something to avoid drowning out the network

One way I think could do well for this is for the fedi support to be opt-in. So instead of all blogs on Tumblr to automatically become part of the fediverse, the users can opt-in manually, which will definitively decrease the sudden flood

@fedi I'm supportive of the concept of federating with Tumblr, but it would end up being the largest instance in the fediverse, with millions of users.

I'm concerned that the sheer amount of activities coming out of one place could DDoS modestly-sized instances, unless we all come up with a way to safely deal with so much inbound traffic on the federated timeline.

A temporary bandaid might be to disable the Federated / Whole Known Network tab, and have actors only start ingesting activities from people they follow + boosted activities + followed tags. Even then, that might be a reach.

@deadsuperhero @fedi That is also my concern as well. I do think #Tumblr would be a popular choice due to it’s simpler sign up process & vast array of themes that can mimic:
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More thoughts: https://darnell.tv/2022/12/11/tumblr-dominion-fediverse-automattic/
I also believe #WordPress with it’s vast array of services would also join the #Fediverse soon after (making Automattic a dominant player by default).
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@darnell @deadsuperhero @fedi WordPress is already partially federated, using plugins. But a built in solution would absolutely be better.
@ilinamorato @deadsuperhero @fedi I agree. Thus far #WriteFreely (https://WriteFreely.org) & #MicroBlog (https://micro.blog) are the only blogging platforms that have fully embraced #ActivityPub.
I think #WordPress will as well & #Tumblr is their beta test into the #Fediverse.
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@darnell @deadsuperhero @fedi Agreed. Identity is going to be tricky with WordPress, since multiple users with multiple bylines can all contribute content to the same blog and it seems like a federated version of it should reflect that (right now the plugin I'm aware of only adds a single user of a particular blog to the Fediverse). Much easier to work out the kinks with a system like Tumblr that's 1:1 (one user, one blog).
@ilinamorato @deadsuperhero @fedi That is true. I do wonder how #Tumblr will address user handles though‽
People can already access the site via example.tumblr.com (or example.com if you have a custom domain) & tumblr.com/example (this is similar to Medium).
Would it be [email protected] or [email protected] (or both‽).
I am looking forward towards their embrace of #ActivityPub.
@darnell @deadsuperhero @fedi oh, interesting! I had forgotten about own-domain Tumblr. Yeah, I would hope for both, maybe with some fancy aliasing to allow one to be treated interchangeably with the other.
@darnell @deadsuperhero @fedi it occurs to me, given that additional bit of info, that actually Tumblr isn't one user, one blog; but one user, multiple blogs. While WordPress is multiple users, one blog. Interesting. 🫠

@ilinamorato @darnell @deadsuperhero @fedi I think there's a main blog that you can follow from, and then side blogs where you can post, and people can follow you, but you can't follow others from your side blogs

I only have one blog so I'm not sure

@darnell @ilinamorato @deadsuperhero @fedi given that this relies on a 'master' account, with side blogs, how would that integrate into the fediverse? For me personally, I'd love to have some sort of integration between my mastodon and tumblr account, but idk how it could work
@Vivp_5 @darnell @deadsuperhero @fedi I would hope some type of aliasing or redirect.
@Vivp_5 @ilinamorato @deadsuperhero @fedi We can only guess for now, but I think side blogs will mimic what Tumblr already does: side blogs are for broadcasting while the main blog can follow & broadcast.
@darnell @ilinamorato @deadsuperhero @fedi In my experience, the only user-facing identifier is the blog name, so that's what would be used.
@darnell @ilinamorato @deadsuperhero @fedi doesn't WordPress already have an ActivityPub plugin?
@blake @darnell @deadsuperhero @fedi indeed there is, and I'm actually using it on one of my sites. But it's extremely limited, both in terms of features and in UX/docs. It's probably in very early beta. A built in offering (or at least an official plugin) would certainly be more polished.

@deadsuperhero @fedi as the Fediverse (and particularly Mastodon) grows, this is absolutely a problem they're going to have to deal with eventually. Tumblr (and maybe Flickr?) federating moves up the timeline, but Mastodon.Social or some other instance was going to prompt that change eventually anyway.

Some sort of partial or double-opt-in federation type is almost inevitable. Might as well figure it out before Twitter or some other really massive service gets sold again and federates.

@fedi my only concern is that #tumblr has a very small number of #terfs active (they're very isolated since most of Tumblr has blocked them ✨). Would Tumblr have to completely ban them in order to fully federate, or could the #terfblr hashtag somehow be sectioned off?