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Marco ArmentVERY good read about the path Twitter is now on. It's not "our" favorite bar anymore.
Highly recommended:
https://tracks.ranea.org/post/701656528790470656/twitter-failure-modes-and-your-favorite-bar
(((Jann Gobble)))🏳️🌈@marcoarment Did this change how you feel about staying there, or was your mind already made up?
Also, is #OvercastFM gonna be supported on here? Just wondering cos I have a question/suggestion and don't know where to post that to. (I'm a subscriber to Overcast)
Proxima Centauri@jann @marcoarment I think support questions about Overcast could be easier to handle in Tumblr:
https://www.tumblr.com/overcastfm
Not everything needs to be in Mastodon.
Tumblr has nice feature: ask me anything.
@proximacentauri @marcoarment Yet another place I have to subscribe to - yet never use. urgh...
Viveka@proximacentauri @jann Tumblr have announced they’ll soon support ActivityPub, so you’ll be able to follow them from right here ^_^
andisheh@marcoarment thanks for sharing.
David Stein@marcoarment reminds me of the twitter thread about needing to throw the first nazi out of the bar, each and every time, or you become a nazi bar. (so as to not link to twitter, here is upworthy monetizing content it didn't produce): https://www.upworthy.com/bartender-explains-why-he-swiftly-kicks-nazis-out-of-his-punk-bar-even-if-theyre-not-bothering-anyone)
@marcoarment And we know what kind of bar it’s turning into. Yes, that kind.
Gerard Cunningham ✒️@marcoarment
More than most sectors, I think this is going to be a big journalism problem. More than most, journalists are there for the audience on TWTR. As their timelines and audience skew right, there's going to be a boiling frog effect.
More than most sectors, I think this is going to be a big journalism problem. More than most, journalists are there for the audience on TWTR. As their timelines and audience skew right, there's going to be a boiling frog effect.
Dwight Williams (💉 x9)+😷🇨🇦@faduda @marcoarment I'm seeing many reporters already setting up positions on various Mastodon instances, FWIW.
@DEWLine @marcoarment Which instances? I saw a lot of people heading to journa.host, which proved to be a bit counterproductive when it started getting defederated.
John Conway@marcoarment it’s a good article, but I think it overestimates how much/many people actually liked Twitter. I was there because I pretty much had to be for my work, and it was better than Facebook/Instagram. It’s possible that the biggest driver still keeping creators there is simply scale.
Michael Bishop@john I agree. I think people’s experiences of twitter vary widely depending on follower/following ratio. I also sense that the people who seem most resistant to Mastodon have large followings on twitter.
@mbishop I had 10k. I actually liked it less the more followers I had (not that I didn't like the internet points!). There seems to be a tech community that got on there really early and loved it. Then a few other groups that really seemed to jive with it.
But I suspect there are a lot of us who always felt like it was trying to to have a conversation in the middle of a highway.
Ryan@marcoarment What a great article. Perfectly articulated.
Tom@marcoarment: Yeah well, nice article... I mean, I started to read and expected to disagree and finished reading scratching my head...
ReneeBluejay@marcoarment
Twitterdome the sequel
Twitterdome the sequel
Lokpal@marcoarment deactivated bird app 2 days ago
Betsy@marcoarment I'm totally going to set up an account at OoblyBoobly.
Shield Maiden@marcoarment I might go into that "bar" a few more times, and piss on the toilet floor, throw up in a corner and drop some glasses though...go out in style like...
Mike Bifulco@marcoarment What a brilliant article - thanks for sharing, Marco.
I published a call to action this morning for my friends still active on twitter - I'd love it if you gave it a read.
https://mikebifulco.com/posts/twitter-and-the-perils-of-obedience
Mike 🍁
@marcoarment I use Twitter to follow a group of people I've picked - mostly reputable journalists, some science folks -and don't bother with the general dumpster fire in there.
Pamela Merritt@marcoarment @thepoliticalcat Thanks, fine article. Loved his metaphor.
My wedding was supposed to be at a lovely fern bar between the time we put down the deposit and the time we showed up with the rest of the money to finalize it it turned into a sports bar. I fired them and we had it at a much nicer place with our refund. (Always have a contract.)
Moral of the story is, don't try to turn a fern bar into a sports bar or none of your other customers will want to come back.
@marcoarment i just closed my Twitter account. It is an echo chamber for divisive and hate speech.
Steve@marcoarment When I go to Twitter now it's only as someone observing a train wreck from afar, with my ad blocker engaged (I don't use mobile). I can certainly understand those who spent years building their followings being apprehensive about posting elsewhere. Since I never worked to build a following there, it's nothing for me to just post here instead. Hell, I already tend to get way more engagement on Mastodon, despite having a fraction of the followers and only posting here for a week.
Rubicon@marcoarment If you are seeing cropped images that make the text impossible to read, you can turn off cropping in Preferences.
@marcoarment Yes. For me the writer nails it here: (The entire paragraph, really, but the encircled part is a particularly excellent point) #Twitter #TwitterDemise #freespeech #freespeechabsolutism
Zinston@marcoarment Well that's true. But also, as hard as it is to find your audience with an algorithm ruling people's attention, it's also very hard to find it with no algorithm at all. Haven't yet figured out how people find each other over here.
Twee JackSharing. It is all about sharing content. Follow people who share content you like and they will share content from other people to follow.
@jackdweeb @marcoarment Which makes obviously that if no-one follows you, no-one will share your content and it will stay that way. I guess what I'm wondering is more how new, non famous people find each other 😊
AntiquusGood point about most of the remaining staff staying. Conversely, the good/talented/more employable staff have left, always they way it works with shotgun style employee reductions.
Watts Martin@[email protected] I'm glad you liked the article. And hi over here as well. :)
Doug JonesI think this article hits the nail on the head. It’s the exact reason I ended my use of Twitter. No longer feel like hanging out in that space as it morphs into something I can’t stand.
Emily Hare@marcoarment Yeah i deleted my tweets on there a couple of weeks ago and didn't deactivate (to try to save my handle), but have now deactivated as it's so vile (noticeably) since I last had a peep that I just don't want any part of it. I wonder what will happen to it and if apple and android will end up removing it?
Woodchaz@marcoarment That's what it comes down to these days: What am I willing to compromise? Would I have made this compromise in 30s Germany?
@marcoarment I think twitter will be my preference still (according to my preference ofcourse).
Its good if twitter gets absolute freedom of speech with basic content moderation wherever possible.
I am also in the favour of appointing the moderators from the country of the applicant to make sure it's unbiased.
Its good if twitter gets absolute freedom of speech with basic content moderation wherever possible.
I am also in the favour of appointing the moderators from the country of the applicant to make sure it's unbiased.
Tom J Brenner