Context: fan writers have been offering their #fanfic in printed format. Some via 3rd party printers, some simply formatting fic allowing you to print.

A group of #Destiel #Supernatural fans have formed & written a how to guide to impersonate as an interested fan to gain access to these locked/private copies or the formatted files to report them, their websites & ultimately get them banned from #AO3

Links & more context in the replies

https://chaoticdean.tumblr.com/post/701750704842375168/you-reap-what-you-sow-etc-etc

#fanzines #FandomHistory 1/n

You reap what you sow, etc etc.

Bouncing off this post by @ltleflrt, and because most of this has been happening over the bird app, I think it’s relatively essential to cross-post this to Tumblr so that the Destiel community knows...

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Caveat: #TermsofService (TOS) for many 3rd party printers prohibit printed copies of fanfic (even #LuluPress which allows you to set zero profits).

#AO3 has strict policies against mentioning fanfic for sale or linking to fanfic for sale. Again, this is a Terms of Service issue

However, AO3's platform allows anyone to format fanfic for printing or offline reading (PDF, epub etc.)

#TOS are not #copyright laws - you can be fine under copyright & still violate TOS 2/n

Printed #fanfiction is not "illegal". It is called #fanzines & has been around for 50 years. All #TransformativeWorks (#FanArt, #FanVids) rely on the #FairUse defense to #copyright. Commercial activity is only 1 of the 4 factors when deciding if an activity violates copyright. The fact that $ exchanged hands is not an automatic copyright violation. $ weighs heavily, but with printed fanfic, only a few copies made, maybe not

Again: #TermsofService =\= copyright law

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/fair-use-rule-copyright-material-30100.html 3/n

The 'Fair Use' Rule: When Use of Copyrighted Material Is Acceptable

In some situations, you may make limited use of another's copyrighted work without asking permission or infringing on the original copyright.

www.nolo.com

OK, now to more links

1. Top level overview from a #FanFiction #FanWriter who has their own bigcartel store.

Note: this is only one example of how printed fanfiction can be offered. Do not assume all fanwriters are using commercial, 3rd party platforms

https://chaoticdean.tumblr.com/post/701750704842375168/you-reap-what-you-sow-etc-etc

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You reap what you sow, etc etc.

Bouncing off this post by @ltleflrt, and because most of this has been happening over the bird app, I think it’s relatively essential to cross-post this to Tumblr so that the Destiel community knows...

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2. Twitter links showing that a group of fans have organized and written how to guides to impersonate interested readers to obtain copies of printed fanfiction and report the writers in an effort to get their websites taken down and get the writers banned from #AO3

https://twitter.com/caslostwings/status/1595121722218647554

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robin // castielslostwings 🏳️‍🌈 #SPNNASH on Twitter

“On request, I’m making the doc Fran aka palominopup created to facilitate reporting fics public: you can see she (and Susan—I’m making an assumption that’s “destiel forever” Susan) signed it. This came from someone inside the SMALL private group she encourages to brigade us.”

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Thoughts: I don't know #AO3 terms well enough to evaluate their actions in this situation.

But the tradition of offering #FanFiction for "sale" in printed format is long and rich and core to our community. Printed fanzines continue to this day with #fanbooks being created and sold, usually heavy on fanart, but with fanfiction included.

Examples: Raw, a #Hannibal fanzine https://rawfanzine.tumblr.com/

Some zines done for charity, some at cost and some offer any $ leftover to the creators


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RAW: A Hannibal/Will Fanthology

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@morgandawn
It's my understanding that the TOS at #Ao3 has stipulating against works being sold because Ao3 exists under a branch of the #OTW as a 501c3 tax exempt entity and the for profit element of linking to items for sale, risks violating the terms of that status.

@TrendyKittyKat I will defer to those on AO3 Abuse. The coordinated effort seems to be also targeting those who are not linking to the printed fanworks available for sale. Ex: Links to preformatted PDFs that *could* be printed or where the author says: "It is OK to get this printed for yourself".

My comments are not only focusing on TOS or copyright law - my focus is also on members of our community arguing fanfiction and fanzines are illegal, internalizing this and acting on it.

@morgandawn
Oh I got that and agree with all of it! I didn't mean to come across as though I was arguing. I was intending to add that bit of info into the discussion, is all.

@TrendyKittyKat Nods. I think parts 1-5 are talking about TOS and copyright law - why they are different from each other - before making my argument that they should not be the dominating aspect of our culture. We have to bend to them to survive. But we do not have to do it willingly, eagerly, and with the assumption of normalcy and as a righteousness belief.

Posts that start with this as a baseline: "Selling fanfiction/fanzines are illegal"