@jackstilgoe oof! this is why we should use puters to guide decisions, not defer to them. Good luck! Hopefully the plagiarists get swift justice, too.

@jackstilgoe well that's some bullshit

@jackstilgoe Luckily your preprint will have the earlier doi, right?

@jackstilgoe this is why we post preprints on servers that give proper DOIs and timestamp them. Much easier to handle this than if we just dropped a preprint up on a personal website

@jackstilgoe The best technology is useless unless there's someone with a brain operating it.

@jackstilgoe Have you contacted the publisher of the paper by the two students?

@jackstilgoe your preprint serves as a temporal marker that you published earlier. Their submission date should be later than your preprint. I'd write to the journal where they published with this evidence and request they retract the article given that it plagiarized your own work (the preprint). Good luck!

@jackstilgoe we've once had a journal accusing us of plagiarizing... our own preprint!

@jackstilgoe It's like getting your own music DMCA'd. How does something like this get remedied?

@jackstilgoe Does this qualify as “Internet of Shit”?

@jackstilgoe @SwiftOnSecurity Rejected!? That’s nuts.

@jackstilgoe I'd be so goddamn mad.

@jackstilgoe luckily there are review boards for this kind of thing. Also those students are about to lose all credibility and access to journals around the world, I feel not an ounce of pity for them.

@jackstilgoe Ugh

@jackstilgoe It could have happened to me some time ago. Arjen K Lenstra was serving on the PC of some workshop with proceedings and asked me to have a look at a paper that looked suspicious to him: it was indeed a mash up of two preprints I had on eprint, and that I had submitted to different venues. AFAIK the faculty of the chinese university they were affiliated with never replied to the program chair…

@jackstilgoe 🤦🏼‍♂️

@jackstilgoe 😲

@jackstilgoe First come, first served? 😉

@jackstilgoe Ouf.... I'm sorry for that :x...

@jackstilgoe Were you able to sucessfully appeal that decision?

@jackstilgoe not a pre-print, but my thesis included a portfolio of my coursework and was flagged as plagiarism. You know, because the samples of my coursework were already in the system.

@jackstilgoe what a nightmare

@jackstilgoe can you appeal that rejection?

@jackstilgoe You had already cited your own preprint?

@jackstilgoe That sounds like a mess that will be complicated to untangle! Good luck. I backed a kickstarter project that got delayed by a year or 2 as someone patented their product before they did and then claimed they'd copied them! Lots of money for lawyers sorting that out.

@jackstilgoe @talios holy shit...now that's a scenario I hadn't considered

@jackstilgoe I really would like to see the papers and the online reports. Possible to check with their professors to get it retracted.