Musk-Twitter has been such a visceral experience of why there should be no billionaires. It should take more than one mediocre egotist’s midlife crisis to ruin a collective creation of 16 years.
@contrapoints yeah, and this is why social media should be controlled by the people, not by corporations. That's what #Mastodon and #Fediverse basically is, btw
@sarasapfir @contrapoints I recently learned that what you're talking about is social networks, the term social media is exclusively used when referring to industry.
@contrapoints I am enjoying the fanboys describing all of this as 4D chess, so maybe this will finally run that metaphor into the ground.

@cupidissimo @contrapoints

His fans will just change the game.

> He didn't want to make it big, the goal of his 4d chess game was to destroy it!

@transitory @cupidissimo @contrapoints
Like with every other faith, there is no amount of reason that can convince them, because their statements are unfalsifiable.
"Never question His infinite wisdom"
@cupidissimo @contrapoints I'm under the impression that 4d chess is akin to snipe hunting
@cupidissimo @contrapoints
I've been checking out the Elon Musk subreddit, and oh boy is every ill-thought action somehow turned into a mysterious masterstroke beyond our understanding.
The alternative would be to admit that he has no idea what he's doing, but worshipers of a golden crypto calf have a hard time admitting they've been duped.
@cupidissimo @contrapoints inb4 ppl claim his end goal was for everyone to migrate to mastodon
@contrapoints exactly! So nice to see you here, btw. I love your YouTube videos. You helped give me the courage to come out
@contrapoints stark reminder that we built that collective creation on someone else's computer

@moh_kohn @contrapoints We still are.

We should give all this public goodness to the world's librarians, firehose money at them and stand back from how they do it.

@moh_kohn @contrapoints I mean, sure, but also: no. That's the infuriating thing...it's not Musk's ownership of some specific server or set of servers that's at issue. Nor is it his legal ownership of the code. Both of those are merely follow-on effects of his ownership of a legal construct. That construct is only tangentially related to the content of the Twitter network itself.

And I can't even be mad at the shareholders who sold it to him...he paid a vastly overinflated price. If I had owned shares of Twitter, and been offered a price waaaaaay higher than what the balance sheets said it was worth, I'd have taken it too. It just sucks that it's so much slower and more difficult to build out large-scale communities outside the context of the "the Market", because the Market is an Idiot God.

@Ipsifendus @contrapoints I feel strongly that the structure of code and protocols is equivalent to institutional structures in the market. These centralised services, branded Web 2.0, were introduced as part of a capitalist consolidation of the internet. They allowed the insertion of a data-collecting middle man which in turn funded further centralisation.
@contrapoints Nationalize SpaceX and Tesla tomorrow.

@ProleEric @contrapoints

I'd prefer worker cooperative-ization with a publicly-elected oversight board.

@ComradeMusk @contrapoints Yes, we must first seize it. Mastodon at least is decentralized and federalized.
@ProleEric @contrapoints Twitter tomorrow. SpaceX and Tesla on Monday.
@contrapoints People should do like that one CEO in America did - he reached the amount needed to get to the top of the hedonistic treadmill, then took the rest of his earnings, and distributed them amongst his staff. And you know what they did with that money? HAVE KIDS AND RAISE FAMILIES. Because they could *afford* to. I feel like maybe there's a lesson that capitalism should learn from this?
@contrapoints Dude really ruined thousands of people's livelihoods basically on a whim. What a fuckin' dickhead
@contrapoints Publicly humiliating himself and everyone who would jump in front of a bus for him is pretty based tho. Love that for him.
@MutualAidMember @contrapoints wonder if this entire twitter thing has been like a dark cloud for him since April I guess, something that knots his stomach whenever he thinks of it, as he finally wasn't able to back out of the transaction, or is he still convinced he's gonna improve it, like in that xkcd:
Twitter is Breaking (Bad)

YouTube

@psanker @contrapoints

was it really good though
<insert thor meme pic thingy here>

@contrapoints and a reminder that no matter how bad the sociopath, there will always been a hundred sycophants begging for dog coin crumbs.
@contrapoints whoever convinced him of buying twitter is to blame too, so at least 1 billionaire on his midlife crisis and 1 random dude with a masters degree on dick sucking
@contrapoints There needs to be a collectively owned/responsible to social media platform. Something that isn't up for control by any one person
@contrapoints mastodon is like the piece of wreckage that Rose floats on to survive in the aftermath of the titanic being destroyed. (Twitter is the titanic and jack is all of my friends and followers)
@contrapoints also an experience of why we need more open source community run shit i think
@[email protected] Dont get me started on California High Speed Raill
@contrapoints is it the first example of the super rich doing to a social media platform what they’ve historically done to media/news outlets they don’t like?
@contrapoints You have 2 posts and are already putting out based takes
@contrapoints it shouldn't have surprised me how quickly it all went to shit, but that's what I get for cautious optimism.
@contrapoints
The shareholders that sold it to him had a hand in this, too. They didn't have to sell. Musk is a turd, but also swims in the punchbowl of a larger problem if you know what I mean, and I think you do.
@krakenfury @contrapoints I've got a feeling they'll end up buying back for pennies on the dollar
@lacrymology @contrapoints if by some miracle he avoids total disaster, he can probably get it limping along. It's not as stupid as it looks, it just sucks to live under a system where this is considered stable. Fuck social media entirely; this is also happening to health care and no one is crying.
@krakenfury @contrapoints I'm from a country with public health care which has been a scenario for this kind of thing on and off at least 3 times in the past 40 years. So, both I'm used to that and our issues are different from the US's..
@krakenfury @contrapoints as for Twitter, he'll end up running out of workers if he keeps pushing. If you want to make rockets or self driving cars, then you pretty much *have* to work for him. It's not the same for social media
@lacrymology @contrapoints yes he's trying to figure out how cheaply he can run birdsite, and that risks running it into the ground. It doesn't have to be a good product to turn a profit. I'm not saying he'll succeed, this is just what it looks like to me.
@krakenfury @contrapoints Considering that the majority of people who invested in Twitter did so to make money and that Elon offered to purchase the company at an obscene valuation what else would they do?
@tlh013091 @contrapoints I'm not saying they made the wrong decision for themselves; just saying they're also complicit.

@krakenfury @contrapoints

I feel that's like saying if you sell your car to someone and they get in an accident and kill a pedestrian that its partially your fault. Sure, in a cosmic sense that may be true, but no "reasonable person" would think it.

To me, what is happening to Twitter is the logical conclusion of a "public square" being run for-profit; the "mission" and the business model are in direct conflict with one another.

@tlh013091 @contrapoints I understand it was their responsibility to the shareholders that forced them to go through with it, but I think they knew that birbsite would be ruined by the deal.

To use your analogy, you sold a racecar, that came with a team of engineers to keep it tuned and maintained, to a crazy person claiming they are a racecar driver and talking about street racing it near a school.

@contrapoints I honestly think it'll be over relatively soon. It'll take some time to put some things back to normal but with any luck people with actual love for the platform will take it over
@alteden @contrapoints No, while the real solution to transport is affordable public transport and bike infrastructur, stop behaving like regular cars don't have a shitton of resources that come from exploitative labor.
@contrapoints honestly just glad you’re still around outside youtube if things go down!
@contrapoints My midlife crisis led to me growing a beard and writing a novel. Much healthier if you ask me.
@contrapoints and literally make thousands of people unemployed seemingly just for the fun of it
@contrapoints he may have done the word a solid in smashing the entire myth of how appropriation of collective creation for the benefit of bystanders with chips on the table and no skin in the game is a lousy model for a culture. Greed ain’t good.
@contrapoints How do you tell the difference between a genius and a very lucky idiot? Time will tell.

@contrapoints

What's happened on Twitter seems to be a load of fucking nonsense. If Mastodon is the way to go, I don't really see there being much of an issue except for the rebuilding of communities that must now happen. It's just really shitty the way it all went down.

Still gives me a not-too-small amount of Schadenfreude that this is the result of his paying 44 billion dollars.

@contrapoints hey i saw you on twitter dot com
@contrapoints The good news is that this further proves that billionaires are out of touch and we don't necessarily need them. Collectively we could get off their golden metaphoric phalluses. #coops #unions #mutualaid #etc...
@contrapoints as something of a mediocre egotist myself, i wouldn't know where to start ruining such a huge creation, so props to him for that I guess
@contrapoints *Obligatory virtue signal to show I agree