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GreenPartyMollyThe penny is dropping for more and more people: Brexit has made us poorer
We need to immediately take steps to build a closer relationship with the EU
As part of our journey back to full membership
Peter Sturdgess@Molly The first and most obvious step is to join the Single Market and Customs Union, this will give our struggling industries free access to the world's largest single market and it is on our doorstep. It will provide the basis of our revival and give a huge market to our gree industries. No need for a referendum, Leave said we would not damage our place in the Single Market in their campaigning in the run up to the referendum.
Kingston-Surbiton Green Party@PeterSturdgess @Molly it will have to be a step by step approach- because some people, especially politicians, will need convincing
@KBGreenParty @PeterSturdgess That’s why @Euromove has a strategy of ‘step by step to rejoin’. Are you a member?
@PeterSturdgess I agree about the customs Union but I can’t agree about rejoining the single market without rejoining the political institutions. As a democracy, we can’t have other countries’ politicians writing our laws. This was the basic conundrum of Brexit
Craig Grannell@Molly @PeterSturdgess CU does relatively little though. But it would hamper trade deals. SM would be transformative. I’d prefer EU membership, obviously, and any closer alignment is good. But given the choice between ‘Norway’ and ‘Turkey’, there’s no way I’d plump for the latter.
@craiggrannell @PeterSturdgess I guess you haven’t seen the humiliation of being a fax democracy up close like some of my colleagues in Brussels. I wouldn’t want that for the UK
@Molly @PeterSturdgess I want what’s best for people. My Icelandic family doesn’t feel like it’s part of a fax democracy, say. It feels happy with the country’s position. I don’t get a negative feeling from most Norwegians either.
My fear is Labour will bring in some basic alignment, spin that as a victory, say we “can’t go back” if people note it’s only a fraction of what we lost, and strand us in a much worse place economically and culturally.
@Molly @craiggrannell British exporters feel the pain of having no say in the regulations that control trade with their biggest, nearest, largest market. Some just give up. At the moment we have the humiliation of no say and difficult access. Opening negotiations will expose the absurdity of no say. An interim position, a compromise, might be to have access whilst we sort out the machinery of representation.
@Molly Hi Molly, We would have to sort something out. This will not be an easy task, Norway manages it.
Axel Foley@Molly Welcome to our world 🏴
John1000uk@Molly @PeterSturdgess Interesting viewpoint, could that be worse than our current Government spaffing our money down the drain and enacting fascist laws against protestors?
SailyHPY@Molly @PeterSturdgess Is that GP policy? Because the substantial worker reforms and environmental laws seem to have come from the EU.
MrRottcodd@Molly
Since a common brexiter claim is that is was about "sovereignty" rather than wealth, it is important to understand that it has made us weaker as well, by damaging our standing internationally, by showing that the UK does not takes seriously treaties that it has signed, by making us politically unstable (4 PMs since 2016), and yes, by making us economically poorer.
Since a common brexiter claim is that is was about "sovereignty" rather than wealth, it is important to understand that it has made us weaker as well, by damaging our standing internationally, by showing that the UK does not takes seriously treaties that it has signed, by making us politically unstable (4 PMs since 2016), and yes, by making us economically poorer.
@MrRottcodd @Molly We went from having the option to say no, having influence but also having to pool sovereignty to having theoretical sovereignty, being able to say no more often, and yet having no influence and clout. No worse political decision regarding the UK itself has been taken by a British government in living memory than leaving the EU.
hiding from plagues ☣️♿@Molly this is kinda funny ngl. We all knew this would happen but the UK in all it's fascist tendencies did it anyway lmao
Barry Hope #FBPE@Molly It took the pound to drop for the penny to drop, seemingly.
David Palk#RejoinEU 💖🇪🇺🕊🌈@Molly Well said Molly, but cynical old me knows that dem Tories are devious, hypocritical liars and unfortunately there are still many sheeple out there who would vote for anything wearing a blue rosette. (Thanks Mrs J Palk L.D) Remain Steadfast, it's going to be a long haul. 💖 🇪🇺 ✊🏼 #ForeverEUropean #ToriesOut xxPalky
@Palky55 Doing fine. Saw you up in London at the last demo but you were rushing to the front with Steve.
@PeterSturdgess as one does, lah! Calmer now but there's some history there!
@PeterSturdgess Did you get my reply? RSVP
@PeterSturdgess #SensitiveContent #ToriesOut Still working out how to use this medium. #OnlyGotOneJob
Beanie MacIntosh@Molly we’ll lead the way 👍🏴 most of us didn’t want to have our eu citizen rights snatched away in the first place
Gnomeicide@Molly Yep. It has to be a road to rejoining the EU, but there are big things we can do to mitigate the damage on that road. Single market, customs union and freedom of movement within the next parliament. That's where we need to get to.
Sue@Molly
Not just poorer but it's damaged our reputation. Allowed populists to abuse minorities & deflect from the truth around issues. It's divided the nation's more than ever bringing dissolution of the union closer than it's ever been. Forced families to choose to leave to stay with loved ones. Damaged our music, arts & science.
I hate it now as much as I did in 2016
Not just poorer but it's damaged our reputation. Allowed populists to abuse minorities & deflect from the truth around issues. It's divided the nation's more than ever bringing dissolution of the union closer than it's ever been. Forced families to choose to leave to stay with loved ones. Damaged our music, arts & science.
I hate it now as much as I did in 2016