@tux0r :openbsd: Wer glaubt, es gebe eine Mastodonkultur, beweist damit vor allem eine gewisse Neigung zu Fehlschlüssen.
Es gibt eine Mastodon-Kultur. Und die definiert sich ganz besonders durch eine ganze Anzahl oftmals ungeschriebener Regeln. Ein Auszug:

• Mastodon ist das beste und sicherste soziale Medium und das beste und sicherste soziale Netzwerk, das es überhaupt gibt.
• Mastodon ist absolut alternativlos.
• Es ist scheißegal, ob man "Fediverse" oder "Mastodon" sagt. Das meint im Grunde dasselbe.
• Das Fediverse fing mit Mastodon an und wurde von Gargron erfunden.
• Die einzigen Nicht-Mastodon-Fediverse-Anwendungen, die erwähnt werden dürfen, sind Pixelfed, PeerTube, Flohmarkt und vielleicht Loops und WordPress.
• Tröte nie mehr als 500 Zeichen auf einmal. Wenn, dann teile deinen Tröt in einen Thread aus Tröts von jeweils nicht mehr als 500 Zeichen auf, die aufeinander antworten und mit x/y durchnumeriert sind.
• Wenn du über sensible, potentiell triggernde oder anderweitig unangenehme Dinge schreibst, mußt du unbedingt eine entsprechende CW ins CW-Feld eintragen.
• Auf gar keinen Fall darfst du das CW-Feld für etwas anderes als CWs benutzen.
• CWs, die automatisch auf deinem Konto nur für dich erzeugt werden, gibt's nicht.
• Du darfst pro Tröt nicht mehr als vier Hashtags verwenden, und die müssen alle hintereinander in der letzten Zeile stehen.
• Du mußt immer korrekt gendern.
• Alle deine Tröts müssen immer maximal barrierefrei sein.
• Wenn du Bilder in irgendeiner Art trötest, mußt du jedes Bild unbedingt mit einem 100% handgeschriebenen, akkuraten, hinreichend detaillierten Alt-Text beschreiben. Wenn das Bild und/oder die Beschreibung nicht für jeden verständlich ist, dann mußt du auch eine Erklärung mitliefern, die für jeden verständlich ist.
• Auf gar keinen Fall darfst du jemandem antworten, wenn du weder demjenigen gegenseitig folgst noch derjenige dich vorher in dem Post, auf den du antworten willst, erwähnt hat. Denn das wäre Reply-Guying und übergriffig.
• Auf gar keinen Fall darfst du jemandem etwas erklären, wenn du von demjenigen nicht vorher explizit um genau diese Erklärung gebeten worden bist. Denn das wäre Mansplaining und übergriffig.
• Volltextsuche ist böse. Gargron hätte sie nie im Fediverse einführen dürfen.
• Quote-Tröts sind böse. Gargron hätte sie nie im Fediverse einführen dürfen. Sorge dafür, daß niemand deine Tröts quote-tröten kann.
• Auf Mastodon genießt jeder größtmöglichen Schutz und hat jeder das Recht auf größtmögliche Unterstützung. Außer denen, die weder im Real Life einer schutzbedürftigen Minderheit angehören noch sich an die Mastodon-Kultur und Mastodon-Regeln halten. Die sind rechtlos und vogelfrei und dürfen beliebig attackiert, beleidigt, blockiert und/oder dem eigenen Admin oder dem dieser Nutzer gemeldet werden.
• Wer in einem Tröt schreibt, nicht auf Mastodon zu sein, ist ein rechtloser, vogelfreier Eindringling.
• Jeder Mastodon-Nutzer darf die obigen Regeln gegenüber jedem anderen im Fediverse auf beliebige Art und Weise durchsetzen.

Das ist doch keine Religion hier, ey.
Richtig. Mastodon kommt mir mehr wie eine Sekte vor. So oder so werden Glauben und "Alternativfakten" über tatsächliche Tatsachen gestellt.

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@Leon Cowle @Stefan Bohacek Yes, that's the trouble with CW policing: People don't police CWs in general. They often don't just police the obvious CWs for porn and gore either. Instead, they aim to enforce all the CWs which they personally need. Regardless of what someone else may or may not need. Then you comply, and then someone else comes and berates or even sanctions you for using too many and/or completely superfluous CWs.

I've compiled a list with over 140 topics that someone demanded be CW'd at some point. And it's very incomplete because it should technically include politics from not only every last nation on the planet, but also every last federal state, province etc.

The worst offenders are those overly sensitive snowflakes who probably came over from Tumblr, and who present themselves as so easily triggered that they absolutely need literally everything CW'd. And as so feeble that they cannot take care of protecting themselves in any way. Granted, I think it'd be too much for them to set up hundreds or thousands of individual filters, especially what with how unnecessarily complex Mastodon's filters are. But still, they see themselves as entitled enough to demand everyone force CWs for everything on everyone, regardless of who needs CWs for what, because they need CWs for everything.

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@David Tanner 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 @Stefan Bohacek You don't. You don't apply them to stuff that you send to others. You apply them to stuff that you receive in your timeline. Not for others, but for yourself.

I think the issue here is that it's often hard-wired in Mastodon users' heads that "CW" equals "poster-side" equals "provided by the poster for all readers all the same".

In this case, it's different. It's all happening on the reader's side. Like, the filter generates a CW for the reader who sets up the filter, depending on what keywords the filter contains, depending on what keywords are in a post.

You, as the reader, define what you want to have hidden behind CWs for yourself. If something disturbs you just enough to have it hidden, but not enough to have it purged from your timeline entirely, you set up a filter with the corresponding keywords. And that filter will hide content with at least one of these keywords in it behind a CW. Automatically generated only for you, personally, individually.

The next user does not want the same content hidden. They do not set up such a filter. And they see the very same post without a CW without having to do anything themselves.

I mean, I guess you know what filters do on Mastodon. Normally, they remove stuff from your timeline. But with this setting, they hide that content behind a button for you instead of completely removing it.

Maybe it's easier to understand for us Hubzilla users because we've had something similar since before Mastodon was even made, much less since before Mastodon started repurposing our summary field for poster-issued CWs. So automatically generated, individual, reader-side CWs are the default for us and part of our culture whereas they came to Mastodon too late to become part of Mastodon's culture.

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@zotheca @Stefan Bohacek It isn't the title field. It's the summary field. It has been the summary field since Evan Prodromou added it to Identi.ca in 2008. And it only became a CW field when a Mastodon user for the demo scene submitted a merge request to Mastodon's GitHub repository in 2017 which repurposed this summary field, unused by Mastodon at this point, as a CW field.

My own POV on this is a whole lot different from typical Mastodon POVs. I've joined the Fediverse on Friendica in the early 2010s as opposed to on Mastodon in the 2020s before I moved on to fledgling Hubzilla.

Now, both Friendica and Hubzilla as well as the whole rest of the family (of which (streams) of 2021 and Forte of 2024 still exist) have a nifty optional feature called "NSFW": It's a list of keywords which, if detected in a message, hide the entire message behind a button. Much like the hiding feature in Mastodon's filters, only not built into the actual filters, much more simple and over 12 years older than Mastodon's solution.

In this software family, the NSFW feature is not perceived as a filter, even though it's very similar to the actual channel-wide filters (which, by the way, are among the few things which are more simple even on Hubzilla than on Mastodon because they've only got two keyword lists, an allowlist and a blocklist).

Rather, it's seen as an automated, individual, reader-side CW generator. It's deeply engrained into the culture of these Fediverse server applications which is a great deal different from Mastodon's culture. And it's seen as vastly superior to poster-side CWs that are forced upon all readers all the same.

A takeaway from this software family: If you write a potentially sensitive post, and you have no way of artificially weaving NSFW-triggering keywords into the actual post text, add them to the bottom line as hashtags. I do that all the time, hence the hashtags that start with "CW" to make clear that they're supposed to trigger reader-side CW generators.

By the way, the Friendica and Hubzilla inventor and (streams) developer Mike Macgirvin proposed two catch-all hashtags for sensitive posts to the (streams) users (that was before he forked Forte off the streams repository). One is #sensitive which also has the side-effect that (streams) and potentially also Forte make Mastodon blank out all images in the post. The other one is #⚠️. Or, if your post is really disturbing, #⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️⚠️. However, this has yet to find its way into Hubzilla, not to mention Friendica or even Mastodon and the rest of the Fediverse.

As for the summary field, if Mastodon actually managed to push its entire community away from fixed poster-side CWs towards automated reader-side CWs, the whole field would be useless. I mean, Mastodon didn't support it at all before it had a CW field because, frankly, you don't need summaries for 500 characters.

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@Stefan Bohacek This is the case for three reasons.

One, Twitter has never had this feature. And if Twitter doesn't have a feature, it's hard for many to imagine that Mastodon has it.

Two, there is no dedicated button for it up-front in the timeline view, neither on Mastodon's Web interface nor in any mobile app.

Three, it came too late. Mastodon's culture as we know it now was coined in spring 2022 by those who had escaped from Twitter after Elon Musk had announced he wanted to buy it. However, this filter feature was introduced to Mastodon with version 4.0 in October when Mastodon's culture was already set in stone for all eternity.

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