If you are crossposting your posts from Twitter and you are seeing this message - please consider this - please don't.

The crossposting from your #Twitter feed to Mastodon feels clunky and disruptive. It also indicates you are treating this community just as your broadcast platform for your takes and your brand. It's not a great look.

Please consider being PRESENT here in the community. Saying this with love. Thank you. #Fediverse

@murshedz good advice. I cross-posted for about a week while I got the hang of this site but have since stopped. I've pretty much stopped checking & posting on the bird site. I don't miss it (or Facebook, which I gave up a couple years ago).

@murshedz I must be the rare person who doesn't mind Twitter xposts on interesting topics from quality sources, at least when compared to not posting on here at all.

I like that crossposts allow me to keep up with sources & information I used to follow on the birdsite. But of course I'd much rather people xpost from here to Twitter, or just only post here.

@murshedz My halfway-facetious ranking:

Alpha: posts interesting/newsworthy content to Mastodon, properly formatted for here, totally abandons Twitter

Sigma: mostly posts to Mastodon and/or xposts from here to Twitter, largely ignores birdsite

Beta: posts some Mastodon-specific content while still mostly posting on Twitter

Delta: only xposts from Twitter to Mastodon

Gamma: posts "I'm here just in case lol" on Mastodon, never posts again

Omega: opens Mastodon account, never logs in again

@IntlLawGnome This is a really good way to break it down - my sentiment was primarily geared for the Deltas here.
@murshedz Yeah, too many deltas IMO, though I'll take what I can get

@murshedz @IntlLawGnome Glad you clarified this. I disagree about twitter crossposts - personally the part that's annoying is when people tag them as "from birdsite" and put them in a CW. The only time they're clunky is when quote tweets or retweets are shared; and you can turn that off if you like. And to be even more honest...when I saw someone boost this on my timeline, I felt a little insulted and that this was a bit of gatekeeping.

(BTW I would say I'm a "Sigma" on JB's list.)

@srgower @murshedz @IntlLawGnome I don't like that either, but I was told to do that, and to follow the "customs" or Inwiuld end up muted and blocked without many followers orninteractions sooo... ๐Ÿ˜• I try to do it for the people it must bother and such.
@OpheliaBelladonna @murshedz @IntlLawGnome see that's the kind of pressure and gatekeeping I mean. Anyway, from my experience, if it a a straight-up crosspost using a website that links both accounts, you cannot tell what is a tweet and what is a toot. It's only when it's a retweet or quote tweet when it stands out with "RT" in front of it.
@IntlLawGnome @murshedz
Good summary. I think Iโ€™m somewhere around high Sigma.
But, is there some secret to the ordering of letters between alpha and omega that I missed? ๐Ÿ™‚
@GeoffBeggs I mostly chose the order as a mockery of the 2010s-era misogynist jerks who use this ranking to describe male personality types. (Some people have a very circumscribed concept of masculinity.) I don't know Greek, but I suspect this particular ordering has no real significance at all in that alphabet!
@IntlLawGnome @murshedz I want to say I identify as Alpha but I haven't completely quit birdworld. Does that make me Sigma+ or Alpha-? ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿผโ€โ™€๏ธ
@eve_eats_apples My highly arbitrary read:
If you kept a Twitter account just so no one else would get it and impersonate you: Alpha-
If you still post there but only rarely: Sigma+
@IntlLawGnome yes gotcha, I'm a little bit of both but leaning towards Alpha-, not that anyone would find me a good candidate for impersonating
@IntlLawGnome @murshedz this but identified as Friends characters... GO!

@IntlLawGnome @murshedz I like this ranking, but I suspect it misses many users. I'm not *very* active on either site, but I use both a similar amount, somewhere between ฮฃ and ฮฒ, but not fitting either category.

I also probably reply more than I post on either site, which isn't really relevant to the question of cross-posting.

@murshedz cross posting does not mean one is not present.

Blindly posting on any platform indicates lack of engagement. Twitter was rife with accounts that existed solely to broadcast, and accounts that lack engagement were obvious.

Whether mastodon use becomes the same is not actually related to the act of posting the same content to both sites or not. So the cross post is not the problem. The broadcast is the problem.

@blakjak I think we agree. I don't mind occasional RTs here and there. But, I am seeing number of accounts that are just primarily auto crossposting content from Twitter. I don't think lot of those folks are really engaging.
@murshedz I think cross-posts are fine - as long as you're actually seeking engagement from both communities. I wouldn't put links from one to the other - but the same thought could resonate differently on different platforms.
@murshedz Well said. The occasional crosspost doesn't bother me. But that's not what I'm seeing, for the most part. It seems that a lot of people crossposting are doing it for all their posts. I'm guessing most of them aren't really *here* at all, so they don't see how clunky those posts look. I'm hoping that will change.
#TwitterMigration
#LearningCurve
#GoodAdvice
@murshedz nice of to say it with love Iโ€™d just say behave or piss off back to the bird ๐Ÿฆ…
@murshedz I wholeheartedly disagree. I'll take information from anywhere as long as it's valid. If it's spammy, I can simply choose to unfollow, or block. If it's still showing up in my time line I can send it to my instance admin. Mastodon in my view is about free discourse, not limitations. This isn't a sandbox.

@murshedz Counterpoint: I am PRESENT in both communities, and will often post the same thing on both platforms. I.e., my "good morning", and #Audrey posts.

I plan on continuing to do so.

If you don't follow me on both, you wouldn't even notice.

@murshedz

I prefer to work the OTHER way around which is posting and engaging in Masto while crossposting to Twitter. I'm small timer who barely got any notice on the bird, but already I notice a tiny bit more engagement there from my Masto xposts.
@stevewil @murshedz This wouldnโ€™t work for meโ€”most of my posts would be too long for Twitter! ๐Ÿคฃ
@IPEdmonton @stevewil @murshedz just keep both separate, and eventually move over here ^^
@stevewil @murshedz @ole I hope to keep both separate and just continue at both places, actually. Iโ€™m one of the weirdos who enjoys both (for different reasons)!
@murshedz I respectfully disagree. I do crosspost from Twitter but I also engage here. Iโ€™m present on both platforms (but am tending to devote more time to here as Iโ€™m engaging and learning the ropes)
@murshedz I agree you must be bipolar enough to have a unique thought in each separate setting. Creatively speaking. Besides some of us jump back and forth so we see you got lazy while visiting here.

@murshedz

When I first got to Mastodon, I used a cross-poster, but soon realized that Tweets (and especially Retweets) don't fit this culture. But it's possible to cross-post from #Mastodon to #Twitter without #cross-posting in the other direction. That way, your Twitter world knows you're still alive, but you're making Twitter nicer rather than making Mastodon more Twitterish! I'd suggest that to cross-posters who are trying to keep a presence on both sites!

@murshedz nicely put, was trying to figure out how to put this nicely myself. A lot of times, it's hard to follow the thread context with those crossposts!
@murshedz YES. I quickly started filtering out cross-posts from twitโ€ฆ they just felt jarring to me.
@murshedz what does crossposting mean? I am on twitter and on here because I have a lot of friends on twitter and I don't have any on here yet cos that takes a while, doesn't it?
@murshedz - I disagree.
1) I have an active presence both here and on Twitter, which I intend to continue as long as Musk's stupidities continue not to impact my personal timeline and posting.
2) There is LOTS of info and Opinion that is uniquely available on Twitter. When the MANY interesting people like Michael McFaul move to Mastodon, it will be very different.

@AmerLiberal @murshedz Also, the entire point of the #fediverse is the freedom to make social media our own.

Thereโ€™s a solution for people who donโ€™t want to see reposted Tweets: unfollow/mute the person! Such a simple concept.

This is the second post Iโ€™ve seen recently where someone is complaining about other peopleโ€™s content, not what I expected from decentralized social media.

@murshedz Well said, although I don't mind the odd one or two. I would also encourage those posting Twitter links to use Nitter (a web front-end to see Twitter without Twitter being able to track you). It's a bit more 'friction' but I guess that's the point: to make posting a Twitter link here a deliberate act, rather than an automated process.

@murshedz Thanks, you just put me off using this service forever. Some of us might be shy, or insecure, or lacking in confidence to just start talking to new people.

Have fun in your community. Hopefully no more new people will come by and bother you guys.

@murshedz agreed. if people want to see your tweets, they'll follow you on Twitter.
@murshedz seriously. They really donโ€™t paste in well and just clog the feed.
@murshedz this 100%, many people like myself moved over here to get away from #Twitter rhetoric, this site should be as independent as possible and develop it's own unique discourse!
@murshedz I say crosspost from Mastodon TO Twitter
@murshedz also I'm not sure which site to reply on. If I reply on birdsite, what if they're not checking birdsite anymore and Mastodon is their primary, they probably won't see it. And vice versa.
@murshedz Agree with this - on rare future occasions I will copy/paste basic info, but will always amend and add for this site because IT IS DIFFERENT! I don't mind the odd repost, but some accounts are nothing but repetition. When it is from people I follow on birdsite, I have no reason to keep following them on here.
Full agreement. Easy to avoid those people though, or filter out all who start their post with RT.