Stefan HansenWhat MUST children learn before the age of 15? I'm all ears. Thanks! #education #pedagogy
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Miguel Guhlin 🦉 🇵🇦 🇺🇲@stefanhansen How to solve problems, perhaps a la George Polya/Socratic method. How to take notes and process them in a way that leads to long-term information retention and transfer to real life. #PBL #Polya #Education #EduTooter @edutooters
@mguhlin Thanks for sharing your ideas. Polya's method for solving problems—splendid! Your comment makes me want to re-read his wonderful little book. So, if we want children to solve problems, what problems do we want them to learn to solve?
@stefanhansen That is the political aspect of this. As educators, we want students to solve real life problems that get them on the uplifting news broadcasts, not the alternative. As people, social justice problems offer the richest opportunities for interdisciplinary innovation and solutions that make a real impact. No?
@mguhlin How literally do you mean "get them on the uplifting news broadcasts"? A lot of good things done will never see the news. So, is getting on the news a criteria for you?
@stefanhansen that is one way of saying people shouldn’t get fired for solving problem
@mguhlin I see. So, what will the kids need to learn to be able to solve problems worth solving?
@stefanhansen Great question. One supposes that you are now discussing curriculum. I would love to learn what others say…I am ignorant, only realizing I know little and wish I had learnt that before 15 not after 50. 🤣
@mguhlin What do you think? We are just jamming, right? It could be curriculum, or more broadly speaking. Here are some ideas:
- to love
- to care
- to contribute
- to have a sense for numbers
- to understand what science can and cannot
- to be resilient
- to not give up easily
- to be in sync with themselves
- to express themselves clearly and beautifully
- to have the courage to create
@stefanhansen who can argue with that list? I suppose that as an adult looking back, I might hope that we wouldn’t teach fantasy as fact, put clear labels on stories, and be kinder about them (clear is kind, and all that).
@mguhlin Maybe no one would argue with this list. However, this is not exactly what is the focus of teachers in schools today.
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Polya’s four step process is gold.
Polya’s four step process is gold.
@dhabecker It is…I didn’t learn of this 1948 (approx) derivative version of Socratic method until 2021, 2022. It makes me wonder why. Children should learn it young. When or at what age do you teach it?
@dhabecker I featured it here… https://blog.tcea.org/sheets/
@mguhlin
I was introduced to Polya’s four-step process (particularly his list in step 2) very early in my teaching career…perhaps 1989?
I have mostly taught middle school, so I know they are capable of employing the process.
The challenge, however, is we teachers teach too much and fail to allow students the opportunity to problem-solve.
@dhabecker I agree completely.
Troy PattersonYep. I love the last paragraph here "fail to allow students the opportunity to problem solve."
Teachers work really hard. It took me a bit as a starting teacher to realize that the person doing the work was doing the learning.
I became a Constructivist because I worked with students who really needed to do the work (then found out that basically all students do).
Simon Keily, M.Ed 🏳️🌈@mguhlin @stefanhansen @edutooters In the secondary system Cornell Notes are a wonderful tool. They also help teach students how to take their own notes e.g while watching videos or listening to a talk. A great strategy for digital environments. #edutooter #education #pedagogy
Jen in Maine@aus_teach @mguhlin @stefanhansen @edutooters when first introduced to them, I was (very) skeptical. Slowly, they have become THE way I take notes, plan things, brainstorm, etc. Simply a great tool for my brain.
@aus_teach @stefanhansen @edutooters Simon, have you used this with your students? If yes, paper or digital?
I felt vindicated for taking notes by hand...after reading this:
“The students who were taking longhand notes in our studies had to be more selective. You can’t write as fast as you can type. And that extra processing of the material that they were doing benefited them.”
The researchers noted the two types of note-taking and defined them in this way:
Generative: Summarizing, paraphrasing, concept-mapping characterize this approach.
Nongenerative: Verbatim copying describes this approach.
As you might imagine, the generative approach has a greater impact on learning. (Source: https://blog.tcea.org/note-taking-and-outlining/)
@mguhlin @stefanhansen @edutooters
Hi Manuel.
I would have students comete Cornell Notes by hand.
1) Take notes as dot points, key words, drawings, l sketches etc.
2) Also ask students to pose one 'good' questuon
3) Re-read notes actively by underling, highlighting etc
4) Write own summary.
Extension: Research the 'good' question.
I've done this with Yr7 students right up to Yr11.
Student's develop strategies for engaging with digital resources. #activelearning
Handwritten for various reasons but also to 'liberate' ideas from the digital.
This also supports visible thinking strategies. #edutooter.
Scaffold to the point students draw up their note book pages as Cornell Notes.
Hi Simon,
You wrote: "Scaffold to the point students draw up their note book pages as Cornell Notes." Does this mean that you essentially nudge the students until their notes resemble Cornell Notes?
@stefanhansen
Hello Stefan.
I'd suggest that what's important is not the tool, which is this case is the Cornell Note (or a digital equivalent) but the thinking involved. So, in the end who cares about the framework. Can we move students from passive consumption of media to active synthesis. Can we get them to read for meaning and ask questions, even when the framework is gone. | Simon
Hello Stefan.
I'd suggest that what's important is not the tool, which is this case is the Cornell Note (or a digital equivalent) but the thinking involved. So, in the end who cares about the framework. Can we move students from passive consumption of media to active synthesis. Can we get them to read for meaning and ask questions, even when the framework is gone. | Simon
@aus_teach I agree. However, some tools are better than others for this, just as a hammer is better for hammering a nail into a wall than a pencil is.
@mguhlin @stefanhansen @edutooters
When completing any online learning designs, i now incorporate similar strategies but without referring to the structure of the Cornell Notes.
#edutooter #learningdesign #activelearning
#digitalpedagogy
When completing any online learning designs, i now incorporate similar strategies but without referring to the structure of the Cornell Notes.
#edutooter #learningdesign #activelearning
#digitalpedagogy
@mguhlin I've read the same study and others about the same. It's important to notice that taking notes by hand is not necessarily better than typing notes. It's the manner in which the notes are taken, which can also be done by typing.
Mark Anderson@aus_teach @mguhlin @edutooters Cornell Notes is a good way to take notes. However, I find Obsidian much, much better.
Reda Sadki@edutooters @aus_teach @stefanhansen that Obsidian, i will try out! I usually rely on Stackedit.io since it is web based. I will try these out!
@mguhlin I use Obsidian, exactly because it is not web-based.
@stefanhansen Yes, I get that. I've relied on tools like Joplin, StandardNotes, but if it's something that needs to be secure, well, it's not in the cloud at all. 😉
https://standardnotes.com/
https://joplinapp.org/
https://standardnotes.com/
https://joplinapp.org/
@mguhlin I am very fond of Obsidian. It changed my thinking. I highly recommend it.