Zef HemelNov 3, 2022
Jeff Jarvis

This is a very good idea from @Danhon, for new orgs, universities, government organizations, and so on: each sets up its own Mastodon server to provide verified accounts for employees (which can be migrated elsewhere when no longer employed).

https://mastodon.cloud/@Danhon/109263680963788603

Dan Hon (@[email protected])

I wrote up my proposal for news organizations (and others) to provide trustable, verifiable accounts (as much as we can, in society) for staff: News/media organizations would stand up a Mastodon instance for staff-only, for example follow.washingtonpost.com (doesn't exist! Only an example!) follow.washingtonpost.com inherits the trust of its parent washingtonpost.com domain. Accounts from that instance are trustable, no public signups. https://newsletter.danhon.com/archive/4230/

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Show threadNatanael ⚠️Nov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon organizations that does this should have specific company accounts for specific roles that employees can post from, so that when people intend to follow stuff like news from them then the follows won't be affected by staff leaving or switching positions. (this is not unique to Mastodon, it applies everywhere)
Show threadAdam DavidsonNov 3, 2022

@jeffjarvis @Danhon I was just playing around and set up my own instance. It was super easy. Just took a few minutes.

I have no use for adamd.host but nice to know it's easy to do if I ever do figure out what role it would play in my life.

Show threadDenverdigiman (Rick)Nov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon … to me, this sounds more like a true metaverse … maybe call it a multiverse metaverse ….
Show threadDr. Emma L Briant🐕🇬🇧in🇦🇺Nov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon that would be excellent!
Show threadTim ChambersNov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon Jeff - what about Craig setting up a #Mastodon instance just for mainstream journalists, with a verification offering built in - that did the service of verifying them to their news urls, and set up auto posting to Twitter for them?
Show threadJeff JarvisNov 3, 2022
@tchambers @Danhon
Actually, we should check with @pilhofer as he was setting up a mechanism for journalists to be verified go give them access to tools.
Show threadTim ChambersNov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon I’d be very up to help with such an effort.
Show threadJeff JarvisNov 6, 2022
@tchambers @Danhon See what @adamdavidson is doing.
Show threadTim ChambersNov 6, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon @adamdavidson Indeed: think it's great! ✊ Offering to help however I can!
Show threadGrant LimbergNov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon we did just this for @zerotier. Set up our own instance just for our employees.
Show threadPhil ReesNov 3, 2022

@jeffjarvis @Danhon Great idea. I've been suggesting similar to academics. Organizations that are already using Nextcloud might want to check out the social project they're working on. Integrates with their current credentials and talks to the Fediverse.

https://nextcloud.com/blog/nextcloud-introduces-social-features-joins-the-fediverse/

Nextcloud introduces social features, joins the fediverse - Nextcloud

Today, Nextcloud 15 has been made available. As there is so much new and improved in this release, we have dedicated separate blogs to each main area of improvement. This blog covers a preview of the the brand new Nextcloud Social app, introducing social networking to Nextcloud. Download now! The Mastodon project is excited that […]

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Show threadJaap-Henk Hoepman (@xot)Nov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon I don’t agree completely. It kills the local timeline as people on the same instance are no longer related based in interest, but on institution instead. Verified accounts can be simulated by verified links in profiles.
Show threadJoel de BruijnNov 4, 2022
@xot @jeffjarvis @Danhon puzzles me to, it would mean multiple accounts in my case.
But still seems usefull tho.
Show threadscottbw 🐧 🇬🇧🇩🇪Nov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon I was wondering something similar, but with Twitter and Telegram bridges built into the service so staff could easily mirror existing accounts (particularly non-personal ones like support, products etc) if they didn't want to create new and separate Mastodon ones.
Show threadFrancois HeinderyckxNov 3, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon
It is a terrific idea, but institutions will be concerned that they commit to providing IT ressources (which might grow quickly) and moderation (which they'll fear might grow out of control).
Show threadDean Betz #🟦Nov 4, 2022
@fheinderyckx @jeffjarvis @Danhon It will take a larger publisher, likely one with public support like Deutsche Welle, to establish the value of the Fediverse as a distribution tool for news. National publishers like the New York Times or Washington Post might then make an investment. In my heart of hearts I'd love to see publishers like regional "markets" form consortiums to back local instances, but I've been around long enough to know that's unlikely to happen in the U.S.
Show threadDean Betz #🟦Nov 4, 2022
@fheinderyckx @jeffjarvis @Danhon And by "distribution tool", I mean one that is two-way. What's the point if you're not listening?
Show threadWistaheNov 5, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon Kinda like email! Email was and still is a brilliant system. I really wish communicating using HTML email was the standard. There's so much room for creativity!
Show threadBrian DrellNov 7, 2022

@jeffjarvis @Danhon it seems like this was the whole point of decentralization. Domains can be trusted. So tie verification to domains.

It’s almost like the early web pioneers were onto something.

Show threadProf Maz Hardey 🌳Nov 7, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon could this be utopia? Love the research sentiment here. (Away from nutcase billionaires).
Show threadHeterodox ThisNov 8, 2022
@jeffjarvis @Danhon Employers? 👀 Why not guilds and unions?