Youssef πŸ‘¨β€πŸ’»Sep 8, 2019
Elis HIrwing 🌱

We all know that Google (with Chrome-ium) has at least close to 90% of the browser marketshare on the internet.

Which is your primary browser on your computer?

Remember that Brave, Opera and Edge are Chromium derivatives. I consider Safari to be separate since it's Webkit and not Blink.

Retoot this to get more votes in.

#poll #browser #firefox #chromium

Mozilla Firefox / Forks
75.8%
Google Chrome / Chromium
15.2%
Safari / Custom Webkit
5.2%
Other
3.8%
Poll ended at .
Sep 6, 2019 at 7:34pmWeb
Show threadLaura migrates to PleromaSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse Vivaldi was my main browser for PC but I switched to a new machine recently and I was too lazy to install it again so I use Firefox now because it was default in my system
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 6, 2019
@selfisekai I've forgot about Vivaldi, but that's Chromium as well... So yeah, that doesn't help with the Google monopoly. So good choice to switch over :)
Show threadLaura migrates to PleromaSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse but is really that kind of monopoly bad? I mean, when Google wanted to do changes to web extensions that would break ad blockers, Vivaldi said they were ready not to merge these changes and start their own extension store
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 6, 2019
@selfisekai Remember IE6? :)
Show threadLaura migrates to PleromaSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse no, 2002 here
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 6, 2019
@selfisekai Competition tend to make innovation happen in several ways. Especially it's great to have competition in implementations around open standards. An open standard isn't worth very much as a standard if there's only one implementation that works or that people use.
Show threadSindastraπŸ§βœ…:~ # _Sep 8, 2019
@sa0bse @selfisekai or even better, have multiple standards https://xkcd.com/927/ πŸ˜‹
Standards

xkcd
Show threadalcinnzSep 6, 2019

@sa0bse I've cast my vote, but I want to spell my response out in full.

I've implemented my own web browsers "Odysseus" and "Rhapsode", the former of which is WebKit-based. The latter uses it's own browser engine and outputs to eSpeak NG.

Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 6, 2019
@alcinnz Wow, that's amazing! I'm happy to hear about both those projects, especially the later one :) Do you have a website for it so I can check it out?
Show threadalcinnzSep 6, 2019

@sa0bse Not a website, but here's it's repository: https://git.nzoss.org.nz/alcinnz/rhapsode

It's quite early days but I'm already finding it useful to help me multitask.

Adrian Cochrane / rhapsode

Web browser targetting voice I/O.

Show threadunspeakablehorror (Reinstated)Sep 6, 2019
@sa0bse I think I use Firefox the most on both desktop and mobile but I do also use Chrome/Chromium a lot though I'd prefer not to. Sometimes I use Opera. Yeah, the fact that most browsers actually use the same core codebase is...worrisome, for a lot of reasons.
Show threadrickSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse qutebrowser, which sadly uses google webengine behind its back ^^v
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 6, 2019
@rick Seems to be Webkit more than Chromium/Blink though. So a bit less googly but still kinda the same rendering engine.
Show threadrickSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse nope, webkit is the old one.. it uses qt-webegine ^^v

https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtwebengine-index.html
Qt WebEngine 5.15.0

Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 6, 2019

@rick That's probably an upgrade compatibility wise since Webkit seems... more and more dead nowadays.

I wish Mozilla's browser was more pluggable and easier to embed in other projects like Webkit...

Show threadrickSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse yeah, thats what i wanted to say.. i would rather use an firefox based engine.. i rly like the vim style feeling of qutebrowser XD (shortcuts ftw xD)
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Show threadepiSep 6, 2019
@rick @sa0bse eeh remember xulrunner :<
Show threadrickSep 6, 2019
@epicmorphism @sa0bse xulrunner?! 
Show threadepiSep 7, 2019
@rick @sa0bse the old mozzila things that allowed you to run firefox’s rendering engine (i am not sure if i am formulating this correctly)
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 7, 2019
@epicmorphism @rick Yes! I used to run conkeror when it was viable. That was a browser based on xulrunner with emacs keybindings! It was great!
Show threadGreySep 6, 2019
@sa0bse Firefox at home. IE at work (it's...a real thing). I use Chrome for personal browsing at work but that's just because I wanted to keep my personal browsing stuff in a separate space and we don't have Firefox.
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 7, 2019

@hummingrain IE sounds like it's not Edge, so it's actually the older one. That sounds painful πŸ˜…

In browser market share war, IE is probably better that modern modern Edge that will/is Chrome-based.

It feels weird to say those words...

Show threadRoserinSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse @hummingrain middle Edge was actually weirdly sort of okay from a resource usage standpoint on my low spec lappie iirc. A tiny bit sad to see it go
Show threadTagomagoSep 8, 2019

@sa0bse @hummingrain

As per the IE acronym "It's not Edge"

Show threadClaudioMSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse #Firefox all the way, even with all of its blemishes. I sometimes flirt with Midori and I wish it was more stable, but I only use it for quick site checks.
Show threadbumble's (🐝) rumple (πŸ¦„)Sep 6, 2019

@sa0bse

I primarily use Qutebrowser on my personal and fallback to Firefox when I can't use that; Qutebrowser uses QtWebEngine which describes itself as a modified Chromium engine.

I do use Chrome on my work computer, through.

Show threadAlexSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse
Have to use Explorer or chrome at work :(
Show threadShanya (Over at BlueSky)Sep 6, 2019
@sa0bse Edge.
Show threadAngharadHafodSep 6, 2019
@sa0bse I use Firefox. Sometimes I am forced to use Chromium because Firefox for Linux is not perfect.
Show thread✨ déménagement era ✨Sep 7, 2019
@AngharadHafod @sa0bse same, firefox with chromium as a backup
Show threadVinΓ­ciusSep 9, 2019
@Sapphaos @AngharadHafod @sa0bse I only have Firefox on Linux (Debian10), and I can't even imagine what kind of Firefox's imperfection would make me install chrome/chromium on my machine.
Show thread✨ déménagement era ✨Sep 10, 2019

@marvinmep @AngharadHafod @sa0bse it think it's mostly because of me extensions, when i do web dev having a clean browser with 0 extension is quite useful

And yeah you can disable them in private mode but even that doesnt work sometimes (ex https://app.retribute.me/ never worked on firefox for me)

Retribute.me App

Show threadschokopflasterSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse Some friends of mine use Ecosia browser under Android (seems to be the only way to use their search engine per default on Android). Do you happen to know whether that’s a chrome-derivate as well?
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 7, 2019

@schokopflaster It seems to use the chrome backend on Android yes. Said so in the description in play store at least.

I mostly use Firefox on Android. Firefox Focus for one-off things (which was chromium on launch but runs on gecko now (at least according to the user agent)). And sometimes I run a bit of Firefox Preview because I like the UI on that one :)

Show threadTesla ⚑ ☒️ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦Sep 7, 2019
@sa0bse 800 votes : not representative
Show threadquadrāgintā duoSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse I think this is skewed because Chrome is the browser for people who don't care about browsers, like iPhone is the phone for people who don't care about smartphones.
Show threadWeather System (Athena's Realm)Sep 7, 2019
@sa0bse I use firefox, however I'm pretty sure Chrome uses Blink which is a fork of Webkit is it not? is it different enough to include it as separate?
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 7, 2019
@codeawayhaley As far as I've heard many frontend developers tend to think about older webkit and specifically Safari as "The new IE6" because it's so bad compared to everything else. So I think it deserves it's own option.
Show threadalcinnzSep 7, 2019

@sa0bse @codeawayhaley Interestingly there was a fair bit of disruption when WebKit moved to version 2 and added sandboxing. That's when Googled forked off Blink, and Midori took a bit of a haitus.

WebKit2 I find works perfectly well, though there are some rarely used JavaScript APIs it doesn't support like WebRTC or service workers. Then again I'm not interested in stress testing it, I think browsers are too complicated already!

Show threadαΌ‰ΟΞΌΞ±Ξ³Ξ΅Ξ΄ΟŽΞ½ :mageia: Sep 7, 2019
@sa0bse
TrΓ¨s reprΓ©sentatif de la population frΓ©quentant masto.. πŸ™‚
Show threadsxpertSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse firefox FTW
Show threadnoizzSep 7, 2019

@sa0bse

Waterfox - primary / personal
Firefox DE - work

Show threadKicouSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse huge selection bias on the Fediverse. Pretty sure the results would be quite different on Twitter.
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 7, 2019

@kicou Yes, that's what makes it interesting to me. It gives me a rough perspective of how people on fediverse select software. And it has given me some really interesting and fun insights into different people's workflow as well.

I'm not at all surprised with the result so far (except from the spread and the amount of votes). And that I'm really happy about! Because people on this platform seems to share my views and opinions.

It's not like I will use this data in any way really :)

Show threadGNU/Matt  Sep 7, 2019

@sa0bse I've over heard people at work joking that Firefox is included in our base SOE.

I put it in so that you can make a choice, damn it!

(They don't know I create the SOE)

Show threadMossHippoLinuxSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse I usually use Firefox, but I keep an eye on Web/Epiphany and Midori.
Show threadrugk OLD ACCOUNTSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse #epiphany is also #WebKit (so select "Safari")
Show threadbalouqlcSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse One unfortunately has to say, that Chrome is best to use with screenreaders. The same accounts for safari. Firefox works somehow, but does course some problems with accessibility.
Show threadNicola JelmoriniSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse
Vivaldi on KDE Neon
Show threadJan v/d BroekSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse On most of them Firefox, also Links/Lynx and Dillo.
Show threadXerz πŸ’— [UNMOVED]Sep 7, 2019
@sa0bse Polls in fedi tend to show a huge majority of people use Linux and Firefox and it's just so weird and great
Show threadElis HIrwing 🌱Sep 7, 2019
@espectalll I can see that, and I love it! So many great comments add well :)
Show threadFiXato (fallback)Sep 7, 2019
@espectalll maybe #polls are broken on #Windows πŸ˜‚
@sa0bse
Show threadsyntaktisSep 7, 2019

@sa0bse
90% is "a bit" exaggerated.

https://mastodon.social/media/MmL8P9somnTbnZ1xb8E

Show threadMormegilSep 7, 2019

@sa0bse I use vivaldi, which is technically based on chromium, but they only use the engine. I know that still counts but they amount of features and degree of customization they add makes it feel completely different.

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-different-from-chrome/

Built using Chromium, but different from Chrome | Vivaldi

What should you make of the fact that Vivaldi shares its engine with Google Chrome?

Vivaldi Browser
Show threadMormegilSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse Ahh I see I should've read through the other replies mentioning Vivalid before throwing my two cents into the void.
Show threadRamonSep 7, 2019
@sa0bse excellent results!