Georg Ξhrke 🇪🇺Feb 13, 2019
Rysiekúr (old account)

Calling all #Fediverse admins of instances in the #EU. The #CopyrightDirective is coming, we need to show the MEPs how massively the EU Internets will be affected.

We are preparing a list of all EU-based #Pleroma, #Mastodon, #GNUSocial, #Peertube, #Funkwhale, and any other instances.

Please *contact me*. All I need is the domain name, which EU Member State it's located in, and the rough topic of the instance. Approximate user count welcome, but not necessary.

Please help. This is important.

Feb 12, 2019 at 9:39pmWeb
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019

If someone can translate this into any other #EU language, please do, and send forth. I will boost. We need this to go as far and wide as possible.

Thank you all.

Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019
The additional thing is that #Fediverse might get a visibility boost (yeah, I said it) from the Europarliament, since we might get featured in a debate at some point.
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019

It does not matter if your instance is small. It does not matter if your instance is not run for profit.

You *will* be affected by the #CopyrightDirective.

Your instance being on this list will help us make that point.

#Fediverse

Show threadJeff Pro Max ™Feb 13, 2019
@rysiek my instance is a single user and is located in Germany. No particular topics.
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 14, 2019
@jeff thanks!
Show threadvinzvFeb 13, 2019
@rysiek Single User, Germany, topic everything/personal use.
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 14, 2019
@vinzv added, thanks
Show thread@[email protected]Feb 13, 2019
@rysiek in what way not-for-profit or small instances are affected by current state of legislation?
Show thread[SUYA] ひみつ  Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek this instance is located in germany for the moment o7
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019
@ivesen which instance?
Show thread[SUYA] ひみつ  Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek miniwa.moe, you know
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Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 13, 2019
@ivesen thanks, added. Can you share estimated number of users?
Show thread[SUYA] ひみつ  Feb 14, 2019
@rysiek 30-50
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 14, 2019
@ivesen thank you!
Show threadLainy Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek how many fediverse instances are run for profit?
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019

@lain doesn't matter. The Directive will affect everything. And even if there are some exceptions, they will be artificial and eventually dismantled.

We either stop it now, or we get stuck with it.

Show threadLainy Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek "for profit-making purposes"
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Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019

@lain ah nice. Problem with that, of course, is that "profit-making purposes" is so wide that it's almost irrelevant.

I mean, yeah, private instances will not fall under that. But as soon as you accept any donations...

Show threadLainy Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek i mean, yes, i think it's a bad idea and an unworkable law, but i don't see how it applies to the vast majority of fediverse instances
Show threadThe federation's favorite uncleFeb 12, 2019
@lain @rysiek Mine. My users pay for all my bills.
Show threadLainy Feb 12, 2019
@guizzy @rysiek did your valentine's day date type this out for you?
Show threadThe federation's favorite uncleFeb 12, 2019
@lain @rysiek Yes, I indeed typed it with my hands.
Show threadhalcy​ Feb 12, 2019

@rysiek Do we just message you here or do you prefer somewhere else?

If here:

icosahedron.website, netherlands [server] and germany [admin contact / owner], nominally 800 users but practically about 100 daily active, topic is generalistic

Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019
@halcy message me here. Thank you, added!
Show threadhalcy​ Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek Good luck!
Show threadGytis RepečkaFeb 12, 2019
@rysiek My instance (mastodon.lt) is located in Lithuania. Need help translating text to Lithuanian?
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019

@gytis always. :)

Thank you, instance added.

Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek If someone has time they could do a script by using data from here: https://the-federation.info/ - fetch the IP, check if in EU and then sum the domains+users. I could try tomorrow but I guess time running out...
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Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek Data is as #GraphQL if someone is interested to do it: https://the-federation.info/graphql
Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek oh, IP is already in the dataset, just needs country location. I've yet to find something that doesn't rate limit and ban me :/
Show threadtastytea [OLD ACCOUNT]Feb 12, 2019
@jaywink MaxMind provides geoip-databases and language-bindings for free, at https://github.com/maxmind.
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Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 13, 2019
@tastytea @rysiek thanks will check that!
Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 13, 2019
@tastytea TBH I did prefer an online API that would not require installing and updating databases, have used maxmind I think a long time ago and it needed frequent updating to be somewhat reliable. Trouble is, I've got myself banned from all the free online services I've tried :D So Maxmind it is I guess.
Show threadtastytea [OLD ACCOUNT]Feb 13, 2019
@jaywink Just put the updater in a cron job and forget about it?
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Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 13, 2019
@tastytea @jaywink any luck? I am manually adding instances for the time being, but some automation would be great (but I can't handle everything ;) ).
Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 14, 2019

@rysiek @tastytea Countries are now in the dataset! Also shown in the lists on the site. Unfortunately the big list of all nodes dies due to... the amount of nodes.

I'll work on a dedicated page to provide the data, will ping you today or tomorrow 👍

Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 12, 2019

@jaywink we have time. It's a question of weeks, not hours.

If you can do that this will be super useful! Info on software running would potentially be helpful too.

Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 12, 2019
@rysiek Cool, for sure I can! I thought there was a vote very soon coming days. I've been meaning to get the country info sorted there anyway :D
Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 13, 2019
@jaywink yup. But the sooner we get the data, the better we can prepare
Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 16, 2019

@rysiek Sorry I've had so many things going on all I've managed to do is this: https://the-federation.info/hostingreport

I was aiming for a filterable table, I'll try make it better tomorrow and get some "EU" related total counts...

Ideas welcome. Also maybe thinking of putting some text about article 13 there.

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Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 17, 2019

@rysiek so, slightly better now, data aggregation moved to database (loads fast) and sorting added. I'll try add some #EU specific counts tomorrow. Any particular wishes on how to show/list the data?

https://the-federation.info/hostingreport

I was kind of surprised #France has so many #Fediverse servers 🤔

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Show threadArnaud J.Feb 20, 2019
@jaywink Cocorico !
Show threadpoppy- slop, hopeful mopFeb 13, 2019
@rysiek @jaywink I thought the Parlament is waving it through this week
Show threadJeenaFeb 12, 2019

@rysiek

Domain: https://toot.jeena.net
EU Member state: Sweden
Topic: Politics, Federation, Photography
Users: 1

Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 13, 2019
@jeena thanks, added
Show threadJason Robinson (inactive!)Feb 12, 2019

@rysiek But if you really want to do a manual list, here are mine:

https://socialhome.network, Finland, 905 users
https://jasonrobinson.me, Finland, 1 user
https://iliketoast.net, Germany, 258 users

And #Feneas:
https://friendica.feneas.org, Finland, 10 users

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Show threadRysiekúr (old account)Feb 13, 2019
@jaywink thanks, added!