Winter Reruns: “As a female I wish I could wear Doc Martens to interviews”

I’m taking time off! I’ll be back with new content in February. Take this survey to share your opinions about what would be most helpful/interesting. While I’m out, I’m running a selection of Hiring Librarians’ greatest hits and most reviled posts.

This “What Should Candidates Wear?” survey response was completed on September 11, 2012 and ran on June 14, 2014. While this particular post may not be in the “most reviled posts” category, this survey certainly is (and rightly so). You can read more about some of the issues if you follow the links in the opening note on this post.

I regret having put this survey together, and running it for so long. I was attempting to help answer a common question, “What should I wear to my interview?” but ended up creating something that reinforced stereotypes and othering. When I wrote it, I identified as a feminist, but ultimately I had very little knowledge or understanding about gender as a construct, or gender theory beyond a few late 90s women’s studies courses. For example, I learned the word “cisgender” during the run of this survey, not before.

One of the purposes of Hiring Librarians is to illuminate the things that people who hire believe to be true, even when those opinions are pretty horrible. Hiring is an area where received wisdom, opinions, and bias can easily turn into policy and procedure. It’s important that we figure out what our unspoken beliefs are, so we can identify them as needing to change. This survey uncovered a lot of horrible beliefs, including my own. While there is at least that one positive, it doesn’t seem worth it. I apologize to the folks that this survey hurt.

So why run this now? I had a debate with myself, and have decided that unlike the other reruns, which I’ll post in full, I’m just going to link this one. It is high on the most views of all time list, which is what I’m trying to revisit during the break. With time as a buffer, the whole thing also feels a little less incendiary to me – it’s one of a lot of outdated ideas. Let me know if I’m wrong about that.

This post may be so popular because it was the last of this survey, but Google also tells me that one of the search queries that leads folks to the blog is “can you wear doc martens to an interview?” If that question lead you here I’ll give you my answer now: yes, you can wear Doc Martens to your interview. If that’s a deal breaker for your potential employer, maybe you don’t want to work there then.

Link to: As a female I wish I could wear Doc Martens to interviews

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#libraryjobs Reminder! Our two Diversity Residency positions are closing soon! OER librarian closes TODAY; Music & Performing Arts Special Collections closes FRIDAY: https://www.library.illinois.edu/geninfo/residents/
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Winter Reruns: “Do not ask questions. My pet peeve. This is useless and a waste of our time.” 

I’m taking time off! I’ll be back with new content in late February. Take this survey to share your opinions about what would be most helpful/interesting. While I’m out, I’m running a selection of Hiring Librarians’ greatest hits and most reviled posts.

This survey was filled out on March 26, 2022 and the original post ran on February 16, 2023. In my notes about this one I have written, “is this even real?” I see a lot of strange takes but this one feels pretty screwy indeed. Candidates make a choice, just like people who hire do, and asking questions about the work and the workplace is a pretty key activity in information gathering for that choice. I don’t have any way of verifying answers, so maybe it’s not real? Or maybe it is and it’s just very uncool.

Karl Geiger (1855-1924), Dt. Bibliothekar, Direktor der Universitätsbibliothek Tübingen 1895-1920. Julius Wilhelm Hornung, CC0, via Wikimedia Commons

This anonymous interview is with someone who hires for a:

√ Public Library 

Title: Administrative Manager/Regional Manager

Titles hired include: Administrative Manager, Librarians I-IV, Sr. Library Assistant, Library Assistant I-II, Clerk, Page

Who makes hiring decisions at your organization:

√ HR

√ Library Administration 

Which of the following does your organization regularly require of candidates?

√ Online application 

√ References

√ Proof of degree 

√ Written Exam

√ Oral Exam/Structured interview 

√ More than one round of interviews 

Does your organization use automated application screening? 

√ Yes 

Think about the last candidate who really wowed you, on paper, in an interview, or otherwise. Why were they so impressive?

Energy, enthusiasm 

Do you have any instant dealbreakers?

Stating misinformation about organization, bad grammar, lingo and cliches

What do you wish you could know about candidates that isn’t generally revealed in the hiring process?

Mental health issues

How many pages should each of these documents be?

Cover Letter: √ We don’t ask for this  

Resume: √ Only One!

CV: √ We don’t ask for this  

What is the most common mistake that people make in an interview?

Not researching organization;, rambling, unfocused answers that are too long

Do you conduct virtual interviews? What do job hunters need to know about shining in this setting?

People tend to sound more monotone and show less enthusiasm in this setting. Smile sometimes and look at the camera. Be aware of your background and keep it simple. It can be needlessly distracting.

How can candidates looking to transition from paraprofessional work, from non-library work, or between library types convince you that their experience is relevant? Or do you have other advice for folks in this kind of situation?

Emphasize customer service, work with people 

When does your organization *first* mention salary information?

√ It’s part of the job ad 

What does your organization do to reduce bias in hiring? What are the contexts in which discrimination still exists in this process?

Too expensive to live in our area now. Makes it hard for lots of people.

What questions should candidates ask you? What is important for them to know about your organization and the position you are hiring for?

None! Do not ask questions. My pet peeve. This is useless and a waste of our time. 

Additional Demographics

What part of the world are you in?

√ Western US 

What’s your region like?

√ Urban 

Is your workplace remote/virtual?

√ Some of the time and/or in some positions 

How many staff members are at your organization?

√ 201+ 

Author’s note: Hey, thanks for reading! If you like reading, why not try commenting or sharing? Or are you somebody who hires Library, Archives or other LIS workers? Please consider giving your own opinion by filling out the survey here.

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York University Libraries (in Toronto, Canada) is hiring for Head of Archives & Special Collections. Applications due by end of January 2026, job starts in July.

I'm not on the search committee, and am happy to answer questions about York and YUL from anyone thinking of applying, or I can recommend someone else to talk to.

https://www.yorku.ca/vpepc/faculty-affairs/wp-content/uploads/sites/698/2025/11/YUL_HASC.pdf

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2 Library Diversity Residency positions are still open here at Illinois! Deadlines are coming for applications, though...

https://www.library.illinois.edu/geninfo/residents/ #libraryjobs

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Rant - This is not a library director's salary in the Boston area.
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Hiring Librarians Hiatus

Well Hi There!

I’ve decided to take a couple months off from Hiring Librarians. My plan is to neither create content nor check email nor look at the socials through late January. Then I’ll start recording new podcast episodes and put together a new survey to release in February.

To help me out, please share ideas for new content, feedback on what I should focus on next year, or general opinions, on this survey. Feel free to skip any questions that don’t apply or interest you.

I do have a few posts scheduled to run while I’m on break. I’ve pulled some of the greatest hits and most reviled posts, and will be doing about one Winter Rerun a week.

If you really need me, you can find non-Hiring Librarians contact info over at my personal website. Otherwise, see you next year!

Your Pal,

Emily

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“I have never been offered a ‘permanent’ position.”

Please note: this is an anonymous response to an online survey; I do not have any way of contacting the respondent or verifying responses. Their answers may reflect good, bad, or middling job searching practices. I invite you to take what’s useful and leave the rest.

Your Demographics and Search Parameters

How long have you been job hunting?

√ More than 18 months

Why are you job hunting?  

√ I’m unemployed,

√ I’ve been threatened at my job or had to deal with hostility/danger/scary behavior from the public or coworkers

Where do you look for open positions? 

Institutional websites, ALA and similar sites

What position level are you looking for?  

√ Entry level,

√ Requiring at least two years of experience

What type(s) of organization are you looking in?

√ Academic library,

√ Archives,

√ Special library

What part of the world are you in?

√ Southwestern US

What’s your region like?

√ Urban area

Are you willing/able to move for employment?

√ Yes, to a specific list of places

What are the top three things you’re looking for in a job?

1) Good pay & benefits 2) Professional work environment 3) Qualified & dedicated co-workers

How many jobs have you applied to during your current search? (Please indicate if it’s an estimate or exact)

several 100s

What steps, actions, or attributes are most important for employers to take to sell you on the job? 

√ Pay well, Having (and describing) excellent benefits,

√ Prioritizing work-life balance,

√ Other: Staff who are competent & qualified for their jobs

Do you expect to see the salary range listed in a job ad?

√ Yes, and it’s a red flag when it’s not

The Process

How much time do you spend preparing an application packet?

1-2 hours

What are the steps you follow to prepare an application packet?

ensure my cover letter and resume correlate to the job listing and institution

How do you prefer to communicate with potential employers?

√ Email and mail

When would you like potential employers to contact you?

√ To acknowledge my application,

√ Once the position has been filled, even if it’s not me

How long do you expect an organization’s application process to take, from the point you submit your documents to the point of either an offer or rejection?

1-2 months

How do you prepare for interviews?

I used to, but I don’t bother to anymore

During your current search, have you had any of the following experiences:

  • Submitted an application and got no response √ Happened the majority of the time or always
  • Had an interview and never heard back √ Happened more than once
  • Interviewed for a job where an internal candidate was eventually chosen √ Happened the majority of the time or always
  • Asked for an accommodation for a disability √ Not Applicable
  • Withdrawn an application before the offer stage √ Happened once
  • Turned down an offer √ Happened once

If you have ever withdrawn an application, why?

Because something the hiring committee said & did after my first interview made it clear to me that they already had someone local whom they were going to hire & who wasn’t the least bit qualified for the job. (And, when the hiring announcement was made, it turned out I was completely right.)

If you’ve turned down an offer (or offers), why?

I turned down one job early in my job hunt for many reasons, the top reasons included: they had a wide array of projects they wanted done but with no money budgeted for them; the library director made it clear she was only there for a couple of years passing her time on the way to something better; after visiting for the interview, I didn’t like the city or the library/college where the job was located; I didn’t like the one employee I would have to work with the most (& it was clear no one else already working there could stand her either); I resented the fact that they persistently lied about the other (non-existent) candidates for the job; it was clearly the workplace from hell

What should employers do to make the hiring process better for job hunters?

1) Quit asking for my SSN before you’ve hired me.

2) Get rid of online application services that require ‘creating accounts’ (especially ones that can not be deleted) and that require typing in hours worth of information into ‘fields’ on the computer in addition to uploading a resume when all the relevant information you need is already contained in the resume. I’ve gotten to the point where I prioritize applying for jobs where I can just upload or email or mail my cover letter and resume.

You and Your Well-Being

How are you doing, generally?

√ I’m frustrated,

√ Not out of money yet, but worried, I feel alone in my search

Do you have any advice or words of support you’d like to share with other job hunters, is there anything you’d like to say to employers, or is there anything else you’d like to say about job hunting?

A word for employers: if you already know you are going to hire the department head’s ne’er-do-well nephew, or the library director’s alcoholic mistress, or the long time volunteer who isn’t remotely qualified for the job but deserves to be rewarded for all the years of serving up cake and punch during children’s programming, don’t post the job and waste applicants’ time. The 2 most frustrating things about my never-ending job search are: 1) Realizing that most jobs are already filled before they are posted. 2) Realizing that highly qualified candidates are frequently passed over for individuals with little to no qualifications whatsoever.

Job Hunting Post Graduate School

When did you start your first job search for a “professional” position (or other position that utilized your degree)?

√ More than six months before graduating with my MLIS/other LIS degree

In relation to your graduation, when did you find your first “professional” position?

√ Other: I obtained my first full-time professional position before I graduated, but it was only temporary, grant-funded. And all my jobs have been temporary, grant-funded. I have never been offered a ‘permanent’ position.

What kind of work was your first post-graduation professional position?

√ Full Time

Did you get support from your library school for your first job hunt (and/or any subsequent ones)?

No, my Library School was & is less than useless.

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“Sometimes who you know hurts the job process.”

Please note: this is an anonymous response to an online survey; I do not have any way of contacting the respondent or verifying responses. Their answers may reflect good, bad, or middling job searching practices. I invite you to take what’s useful and leave the rest.

Your Demographics and Search Parameters

How long have you been job hunting?

√ A year to 18 months

Why are you job hunting?  

√ This is the next step after finishing library/archives/other LIS graduate degree,

√ I’m unemployed,

√ I’m underemployed (not enough hours or overqualified for current position),

√ I’ve been threatened at my job or had to deal with hostility/danger/scary behavior from the public or coworkers,

√ Because I’m worried about a possible recession

Where do you look for open positions? 

Archives Gig, LinkedIn, Library Job line, USA jobs, Indeed

What position level are you looking for?  

√ Entry level

What type(s) of organization are you looking in?

√ Academic library,

√ Archives,

√ Special library

What part of the world are you in?

√ Western US (including Pacific Northwest)

What’s your region like?

√ Urban area,

√ Suburban area,

√ Rural area

Are you willing/able to move for employment?

√ No,

√ Yes, to a specific list of places

What are the top three things you’re looking for in a job?

Flexible, Opportunity to grow, non toxic workplace

How many jobs have you applied to during your current search? (Please indicate if it’s an estimate or exact)

15 estimate

What steps, actions, or attributes are most important for employers to take to sell you on the job? 

√ Pay well,

√ Having a good reputation,

√ Funding professional development,

√ Prioritizing work-life balance

Do you expect to see the salary range listed in a job ad?

√ Yes, and it’s a red flag when it’s not

Other than not listing a salary range, are there other “red flags” that would prevent you from applying to a job?

Not enough information. Seeing the job ad posted regularly indicating frequent turnover.

The Process

How much time do you spend preparing an application packet?

2-3 hours

What are the steps you follow to prepare an application packet?

Curate resume/cv to job ad. Write cover letter covering key experiences that fit with resume.

How do you prefer to communicate with potential employers?

√ Email

When would you like potential employers to contact you?

√ To acknowledge my application,

√ To tell me if the search is at the interview stage, even if I have not been selected,

√ Once the position has been filled, even if it’s not me

How long do you expect an organization’s application process to take, from the point you submit your documents to the point of either an offer or rejection?

2 weeks

How do you prepare for interviews?

Reading the job ad, researching the company, reviewing my resume and cover letter. Rehearsing potential examples of experiences.

What are your most hated interview questions, and why?

Tell me about a time… questions. This is popular right now but it creates a scenario where good story telling is required.

During your current search, have you had any of the following experiences:

  • Submitted an application and got no response √ Happened once
  • Had an interview and never heard back √ Happened once
  • Interviewed for a job where an internal candidate was eventually chosen √ Happened the majority of the time or always
  • Asked for an accommodation for a disability √ Not Applicable
  • Withdrawn an application before the offer stage √ Not Applicable
  • Turned down an offer √ Not Applicable

If you’ve asked for an accommodation, what happened?

Too scared to ask.

If you want to share a great, inspirational, funny, horrific or other story about an experience you have had at any stage in the hiring process, please do so here:

Sometimes who you know hurts the job process. The library/archive world is small. A few times my supervisor suddenly becomes unpopular within this world and because I worked under them I am not considered.

What should employers do to make the hiring process better for job hunters?

Be honest. If you are probably going to hire an in internal candidate it should be clear. Having positions that don’t require so much experience up front. A masters is expensive and volunteering to get experience required takes a long time (archives and history related jobs specifically).

You and Your Well-Being

How are you doing, generally?

√ I’m somewhat depressed,

√ I’m frustrated,

√ I’m running out of money,

√ I feel alone in my search

What are your job search self-care strategies?

Trying not to panic. Not obsessing about the process constantly.

Do you have any advice or words of support you’d like to share with other job hunters, is there anything you’d like to say to employers, or is there anything else you’d like to say about job hunting?

It’s hard. I’m struggling. I wish I had better advice.

Job Hunting Post Graduate School

If you have an MLIS or other graduate level degree in a LIS field, what year did you graduate? (Or what year do you anticipate graduating?)

2024

When did you start your first job search for a “professional” position (or other position that utilized your degree)?

√ Six months before graduating with my MLIS/other LIS degree

In relation to your graduation, when did you find your first “professional” position?

√ Hasn’t happened yet – I’m still looking

What kind of work was your first post-graduation professional position?

√ Volunteer

Did you get support from your library school for your first job hunt (and/or any subsequent ones)?

No

Is there anything else you’d like to tell us about searching for or finding your first post-graduation position?

No

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Further Questions: Best Advice for Getting Hired and for People Who Hire

Let’s do a deeper dive into specific hiring questions! About once a month, I get answers from a group of people who hire library and LIS workers. I’d love to hear from you: what should I ask next time? Or, let me know if you’d like to join the pool of people who might answer.

I’m gearing up to take a couple months off, so to tide us over while I’m gone I have a very broad two-part question:

1. What is your most important piece of advice for people looking for LIS work?

2. What is your  most important piece of advice for people who hire LIS workers?

Donna Pierce, Library Director, Krum Public Library:

For the person looking for work – Experience – volunteer for a small library so you have an idea of what really happens!  Work on customer service skills unless you know that whatever you do you won’t be dealing with the public.  (You would be surprised at how few areas don’t require some type of customer service!)  Also, at least in public libraries, look at how your hobbies and interests can translate into programs or services. 

For those hiring – customer service skills, ability to recognize patterns and ask questions (do all the books with a green sticker go in the same area?  Why is this book different?  Is this really where this book belongs?);  plus attention to detail.  If their application has misspellings (my favorite was the person who had an education degree and misspelled “education”!) that is a huge red flag.

Dr. Erica England, First-Year Experience Librarian, Washington State University:

1. Most important for people looking for LIS work: Sell yourself! Even if you don’t think that you have the necessary skills, I guarantee you have done something that can be translated into value. Whether it’s solving problems, learning quickly, or staying calm under pressure — those are all skills that employers are looking for. Don’t downplay your experience just because it doesn’t have a fancy label.

2. Most important for people hiring: The LIS degree matters and is invaluable. Don’t assume that holding a PhD means someone knows how to research effectively. LIS professionals are trained in information literacy, search strategy, and source evaluation — skills that many others lack. Our expertise fills critical gaps in how people find, assess, and use information. That should never be discounted.

Gretchen Corsillo, Director, Rutherford Public Library:

1. My most important piece of advice for people looking for LIS work is to show off why you want the job you’re applying for. I see too many applications come across my desk that are not at all tailored to the role in question, and that is usually an automatic no for me. If you’re invited for an interview, bring specific examples to show what appeals to you and highlight that you’ve done your research about the library. This sends the message that you’re invested in the organization and understand why you’d be a good fit. 

2. My most important piece of advice for people who hire LIS workers is to look at non-library job experience as an asset. I’ve seen a lot of hiring professionals write great candidates off because they’ve transitioned from another field or otherwise had a lot of experience doing something different. Many skills are transferable to library work. Some of my best hires over the years have come from backgrounds in retail, education, etc. While there are many roles that do require specific library experience, it’s important not to discount outside-the-box skills as well. Try to look at the candidate’s background as a whole, rather than just how long they’ve been in the library world. 

Dr. Colleen S. Harris, Dean, Killam Library, Texas A&M International University:

1. What is your most important piece of advice for people looking for LIS work?

Most importantly, where you can do so authentically, connect your interview question answers to your professional experience, lived experience, or what you know from your research about the institution. It grounds your answer in context which is helpful to the committee members who are likely using a set question list and rubric to ensure fairness across candidates. Even if your experience is outside libraries, customer service is customer service, and helping people solve problems is universal. Also, if you have questions, ask (and ALWAYS have questions).

A secondary piece of information, not really advice, is that at least in academic libraries we have very little control over the HR portion of the hiring process which includes important communication. We can set up the interview, but any communication after the in-person interview is not allowed to come from the search chair or even the dean, everything must come from HR. This means that as much as we would like to keep in communication to keep you updated, we are usually (in the various state systems I have worked in over my career) not allowed. Please know if you are not notified about a position closing or not being chosen until wildly late, we would very much prefer to be able to give you such information sooner but are restricted by our institutional processes and policies. I promise, we think it’s as shitty a system as you do–we genuinely value your time and effort.

2. What is your  most important piece of advice for people who hire LIS workers?

I have three: 

(1) Create spaces for kindness where you can. Interviewing is grueling, and the academic all-day interview is a gauntlet of being “on”. Build in time for bathroom/breathing breaks between interview sessions.

(2) Share the interview questions in advance via email with Zoom candidates, and in writing with in-person candidates so they have something to refer to or scribble on during the committee interview session. Especially in the Zoom scenario, receiving those 30-60 minutes prior can allow the committee to see the candidate performance without unnecessary stress shading things. It’s not enough time to heavily prep a question for a candidate to present themselves unrealistically, but it is enough time for the candidate to not feel blindsided and to shake off their nerves. Which leads me to:

(3) Remember that we want candidates to feel as comfortable as possible so they perform to the best of their ability. Whatever we can do to put them at ease gives us a more realistic baseline from which to judge their performance. We should do this as decent humans, but if you need a formal motivator to be kind, there you go!

Jess Herzog, Director of Adult Services, Spartanburg County Public Libraries:

1. What is your most important piece of advice for people looking for LIS work?

Be yourself. I know this can feel very hard in the moment, when you’re about to walk into an interview and you’ve been trying so hard to get a job for months/years on end. But if you embrace yourself and who you are, show your personality and your passions, you won’t go wrong. To me, every hire is a “personality hire”; I can teach you how to use an ILS or set up AV equipment, but I can’t teach you to be skilled at customer service, patient with new tech users, or lighthearted with kids. Those indications come through what I see of your personality, so don’t hide it.

2. What is your most important piece of advice for people who hire LIS workers?

Remember that you are being interviewed too. It is absolutely wild to me how many of us–both people I’ve been on interview panels with and panels I’ve interviewed for–completely ignore this part of the interview process. Sure, it’s hard to get a job right now, but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be putting our best feet forward as a collective. We’re representing our libraries, our departments, and our staff to an interviewee, and the way we come across sends a message about the workplace culture. So dress nicely, answer questions honestly and openly, and sell yourself and the library a little bit. It can go a long way.

Celia Rabinowitz ,Assistant Vice-President for Academic Engagement and Director of Mason Library, Keene State College:

What is your most important piece of advice for people looking for LIS work?

I wonder about what seems to be a disconnect between the accounts of job-seeking library degree holders about how many jobs they apply for without success and what hiring managers (at least in academic libraries which is what I pay attention to) report as very thin candidate pools for jobs. It seems increasingly challenging but I encourage job seekers to be as geographically flexible as possible. There are lots of reasons for not being willing or able to move. But if you find positions in places that seem to match you professional and personal needs, it’s worth considering a move. No job has to last forever. Even if you see it as the job that gets you to the next one in the place you’d rather be. I think that is my most important piece of advice these days. But please don’t forget to keep at it, to ask people to read your stuff before you submit it (open invitation for you to send that CV or cover letter to me), and don’t underestimate the value of all your experience.

What is your most important piece of advice for people who hire LIS workers?

Based on what I read from job-seekers I have two pieces of advice. The first is to offer entry-level positions that are truly that. Give newly degreed professionals who may have limited job experience in library or information environments the opportunity to get that first job. If these positions do not require previous experience then offer them that way. If previous experience is preferred, in many hiring situations a committee will be obligated to prioritize those candidates. The second piece of advice is to be sure you understand the notification process that your institution or organization uses to let individuals know who do not progress in the search, or who are not selected in a finalist round. The stories of job-seekers who never receive any communication, even after an in-person interview is troubling. Someone should be responsible for this and I encourage hiring managers or search committee chairs to be sure you know who that is.

Laura Daniels (she/they), Assistant Director, Metadata Production and Acting Director, Cataloging and Metadata Services, Cornell University Library:

What is your most important piece of advice for people looking for LIS work?

Be a little (but not too) picky. Think about where you want to be (the institution itself, and the location) as well as what you want to be doing. Don’t waste time applying for positions you don’t want or for which you are not qualified.

What is your most important piece of advice for people who hire LIS workers?

Hire for capability and potential, not charisma. It’s easy to get distracted by someone who interviews well. Don’t let that get in the way of considering what qualities and qualifications actually matter for the role.

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