gtewallaceI hate GitHub Actions with passion | Hacker News
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46614558
Kyle DavisDespite my arm being in a sling, I have to address this bullshit.
The #PRUSA Open Community License is a very bad thing. It’s the same bullshit we’ve seen in the software world: come up with a #fauxpensource license after years of cheerleading open source (and building a business on that goodwill).
Also: why does Josef think he’s building software when releasing printers? Open Hardware is a thing and there are specific licenses just for that.
https://blog.prusa3d.com/core-one-cad-files-release-under-the-new-open-community-license-ocl_127290/
Open-sourcing CORE One CAD Files Under the New Open Community License (OCL) - Original Prusa 3D Printers
Today, we are releasing the full CAD files for the CORE One and CORE One L frames. You can download them right now, load them into your CAD software and use them to create mods and accessories, import them to Fusion...
This is extremely gross of Synadia: trying to pull back a project contribution to a foundation and switch a #fauxpensource license.
Alexandre DulaunoyThe latest proposal from @osi poses significant risks to the true principles of open source. This concern reminds me of my primary issue with EPSS, where the model is documented in a paper, yet relies on proprietary data sources that aren’t accessible for reproduction. It's like having free/open source software without the entire build chain needed to create the executable code.
What’s the actual reasoning behind this clause?
https://opensource.org/ai/drafts/the-open-source-ai-definition-1-0-rc2
Patrick Masson"Lately, though, there's been a very disturbing trend. A company will make its program using #OpenSource, make millions from it, and then switch licenses, leaving contributors, customers, and partners in the lurch as they grab billions."
- Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols
@sjvn via ComputerWorld.
This is why you should only adopt #OSS owned and governed by non-profit foundations.
BerkubernetusIn fact, if you think hard about their actual terms, you'll figure out that the only people who can still use Hashi projects for free are home users working on hobbies, provided that those hobbies generate no income at all.
That's not open source. That's Shareware!
Yes, welcome to the return of Shareware.
indigoJust a little disclaimer, I’m in a bubble of open-source software which is used mainly in commercial businesses and not used by my mom and dad on their private computer :) I think this can make a big difference, cause there is money involved from a value/profit chain perspective. From my experience, I have seen two characteristics of how “Projects” from “Products” differ which is mainly in governance. Products mostly have a private entity as an owner, Projects have more of a shared ownership in the form of a steering board.
As soon you are in the “Product” space you need ways to cripple your 0-cost product to create a differentiator to your product behind a paywall. There are more or less ethical ways to cripple your 0-cost product.
A more ethical way - from my perspective - is crippling it on stability; for example when companies decide to provide a “long-term support” version. The 0-cost version has all the latest and greatest features and the company maintains a less feature-rich but more well-tested version out of it. It is in my point of view a very honest model.
A less ethical way is #fauxpensource, where you cripple the 0-cost product on the features to make people pay you for a proprietary version of it. When it is a “Product” you get very very quickly into a value/profit/market type deal situation. The more ethical way is extremely hard to sell and the less ethical way is pretty straightforward to explain and understand.
#opensource projects have mostly a different type of government and have mostly a much bigger and long living lifespan to cover.
fresco@indigo I hate #fauxpensource too but also the fact that users do not support open-source projects enough. How would project vs product help? Don't we use OS projects simply as products, that is expect them to be products? I'm interested because maybe you're on to something.
It seems like we can’t get rid of #fauxpensource. I’ve used #openlense for some time. At some point in time, I noticed two pretty valuable features were removed, a) following logs of a running container and b) opening a shell into a running container. It turns out they have moved them to the proprietary code base. https://github.com/lensapp/lens/issues/6819#issuecomment-1363751421
As I have a little bit of product management background, I think a lot of people in our business don’t really understand, features are easier to copy than you think whereas communities, people, and cultures are not. I think we should more clearly differentiate between #opensource “projects” and “products”.
Ciourte PiaillePour utiliser les données de trafique routier national, il faut envoyer un e-mail et accepter la « Licence Ouverte / Open Licence d’Etalab » pas Libre et incompatible avec les licences Libres avec des absurdités comme sa durée « 3 ans renouvelable par tacite reconduction » mais surtout l'interdiction d'utilisation « proposant ou faisant la promotion de produits ou services non conformes […] aux bonnes mœurs » ?!
#LicenceLibre #FauxLibre #FauxpenSource #OpenData #FauxpenData #France #BisonFuté
