"Turing’s test remains intriguing, but there is a longstanding difficulty: the fallibility of the judge. A primitive 1960s chatbot, Eliza, responded like a parody of a therapist (“How does that make you feel?” “Why do you feel sad?” “Please go on.”). People lapped it up; it’s nice to feel listened to. A 1980s chatbot, MGonz, just fired off insults and was perfectly plausible, partly because insults are simple to deliver and mostly because they prompt rage rather than reflection in the human recipient. And Robert Epstein, an expert in the Turing Test, has written entertainingly about how he was fooled into a four-month correspondence with a sexy Russian lady who was, in fact, a 2006-era chatbot. None of these bots had a thousandth of the sophistication of a modern LLM, but they didn’t need it: when humans are sad, angry or amorous, we aren’t very sophisticated judges, either.

We are all going to find ourselves in strange variations of the Turing Test in years to come, and I wonder if we are up to it. And not just us, but those with power over us. As Cory Doctorow, author of Enshittification, is fond of observing: you won’t be replaced because an AI can do your job, you’ll be replaced because an AI salesman convinces your boss that it can. If my journey to the marathon start line is any guide, that salesman will have an easy job.

The capabilities of modern AI are impressive. But what determines whether we use it is not the capability, but the impressiveness. They are correlated but they are not the same thing."

https://www.ft.com/content/eb6f5398-6635-4938-b890-625e7c8d3af2?syn-25a6b1a6=1

#AI #GenerativeAI #Chatbots #LLMs #TuringTest #Enshittification

Conned by a chatbot

Like tricksters, LLMs have perfected the art of plausibility

Financial Times
Wow richard dawkins ...
im embarrased for thinking he was smart at
some point, was he just a failing up white guy the
whole time.
(to be clear he's been an ass for a while)

#turingtest #llm #notsmart

Tired: Turing test to determine if the thing on the other end of the communication line is sentient and/or human.

Wired: test if an "AI" LLM is sentient by seeing if it can correctly identify whether the other end of the communication line is Sam Altman, or an LLM simulacrum of Sam Altman.

(Yes, most humans would also fail this test.)

#AI #LLM #TuringTest #AltmanTest #SamAltman #simulacrum #NotHuman

@johncarlosbaez

"Did Turing ever discuss how well flattery works for winning the imitation game?"

Oh, excellent. You've earned the Pithy Remark of the Year 2026 award.

(Yes, I dare the rest of year to prove me wrong!)

#RichardDawkins #TuringTest #GenerativeNarcicism #noLLM #StopTheAICorruption

#PithyRemarkOfTheYear

Episode #436 | Skeptics with a K | Merseyside Skeptics Society

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A Turning test for the chatbots era: "So how do we get a glimpse of the ‘stochastic parrot’ behind the curtain that is creating this faux magic? Adam Becker provides an excellent example in his book More Everything Forever. “Just ask a question that’s superficially similar to one that’s already all over the internet,” he notes, “but make a small change in its text that creates a large change in its meaning.” https://www.dailygrail.com/2026/05/the-claude-delusion-richard-dawkins-believes-his-female-ai-chatbot-is-conscious

#AIPsychosis #RichardDawkins #TuringTest

The Claude Delusion: Richard Dawkins believes his AI chatbot is conscious and is the 'next phase of evolution'

Science, magic, myth and history

The Daily Grail

Hey, here's an interesting response to the "AI" (LLM) pushers from @existentialcomics!

https://existentialcomics.com/comic/652

#LLM #TuringTest #AI

Turing Test 2.0

A philosophy webcomic about the inevitable anguish of living a brief life in an absurd world. Also Jokes

2/ @steve hat die Fehler gefunden. Ich dachte erst, dass #FredUndGünther einen Fehler gemacht haben, denn Donald kann ja nicht „Ich“ sagen. Er müsste "me" sagen.

Aber die Figur in Fred und Günthers Buch ist auch gar nicht Donald. Es ist ihre Standard-Figur für ältere deutsche Männer.

Und KI habe ich 1992 in Edinburgh studiert und es gibt seit 1988 ein Deutsches Forschungszentrum für Künstliche Intelligenz.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Forschungszentrum_f%C3%BCr_K%C3%BCnstliche_Intelligenz

Und die KI-Forschung gibt es noch viel länger. Die ganze Forschung zur Maschinellen Übersetzung fällt darunter.

Sie fing wohl mit Turing in den 50ern an:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence#History

Den #TuringTest kennt man ja auch.

Warning: there's a lot of U.S.A. politics in the rest of the thread, so have a care about clicking through.

But this part was interesting. Someone wanted to prove that generative AI was alright by showing how it allowed xem to do something that xe could not do unaided.

But it did not do the task specified.

It changed the whole image in ways that weren't prompted at all. The basketball hoop gets blended into the gazebo, which alongside the side of the building becomes an Escherist nightmare. The garden furniture, foundations, and canoes are all changed significantly, and the footpath becomes blended in with the rocks and grass. Even the trees appear to change species.

Also, the windows and doors change shapes.

To the writer of the alt text, however, this is 'the same cottage' with just a siding change.

Yet more evidence that the major thing that the 2020s have proven is that we humans are generally not capable of applying the #TuringTest.

https://mstdn.ca/@Hardhead13/116388219342242077

#AI