@SuperMoosie Apologies for the late reply - out and about running errands.

One can only hope.

I do wonder how much of the weight of Gina was through #spud personally, and how much was simply through Dutton because he was in charge at the time.

Matt Kean did a lot of things wrong in his time - but he did a lot of things right, both while in parliament, and since he left.

Turnbull - though badly - showed that the Libs can be not entirely a force for evil when it comes to climate and renewables.

Yes, to all that you suggested.

They have to return to the centre - and shout down anyone who says that centrist politics isn't doing enough or isn't appealing to their base.