What do we really need:

A blob of data that syncs across devices.

A conflict resolution flow (because yes, sync is hard, but solvable if you design for it).

A protocol path that is not “just another cloud,” but part of a commons.

This is what the #OMN path is sketching out:

Bridging client/server with #p2p flows.

Giving people the power to hold their own history (rather than leasing it back from Google/Meta).

Doing this inside a trust-based #4opens framework (#OpenData, #OpenSource, #OpenStandards, #OpenProcess).

Keeping it #KISS so a normal-ish human can understand what’s happening.

It’s not “a new app.” It’s plumbing — the pipes and tanks that allow history, content, and flows to move while staying in our hands.

Not the same as a sync library, but the same path: moving from stranded silos → cloud capture → trust-based decentralisation.

#KISS

Talking about trust and power in networks

A. on the subject of “security” we have a #open policy of not trusting ANY client server security at all, so this should only be done #4opens as far as possible and having limited trust in #p2p security, even though we use this, because of the insecurity of the undelighting syteams it runs on, mostly old outdated phones, built as blobs by #dotcons this simple approach gets round much of the current thinking of technical “security” ie. the is almost non at a normal use level and little real […]

https://hamishcampbell.com/talking-about-trust-and-power-in-networks/

Can people engage with the #4opens process?

https://hamishcampbell.com/can-people-engage-with-the-4opens-process/

"The "unique" selling point of the #OMN (Open Media Network) often gets lost because people focus too much on the technical side rather than the simple, fundamental idea at its core. The real value proposition, which might sound like "common sense," is quite radical in today's landscape: in the #OMN, both people and content are treated as data objects in the commons by default and are only private/owned by exception.
This might seem straightforward, but it's a powerful shift away from the dominant models we see today. Most current #dotcons, are built the other way around, where data, content, and even people are enclosed and owned by default, with access and openness as rare exceptions. The #OMN flips this on its head, embodying the #4opens—#OpenData, #OpenSource, #OpenProcess, and #OpenStandards, to create a network where sharing and collaboration are the norm, not the exception."

https://opencollective.com/open-media-network/updates/the-omn-is-a-framework-for-reclaiming-our-digital-commons

The #mainstreaming mess

https://hamishcampbell.com/the-mainstreaming-mess/

The web wasn’t built by solo tech geniuses, finance firms, or flashy luminaries making illusionary promises. It was grown by the collective time, energy, and creativity of millions of grassroots people and communities working together to create something greater than themselves. The internet as we know it emerged not from the top-down visions of elites, but from decentralised, collaborative efforts. This same collective energy will be what propels us into the next era of the #openweb, a web that remains true to its native principles of accessibility, freedom, and inclusivity.

For the last 20 years, however, we’ve been stuck in the corporate-controlled ecosystem of the #dotcons. Platforms like Meta, Google, and Amazon have dominated the landscape, turning the internet into a commodity to be bought, sold, and controlled. Their vision has led to the rise of the #closedweb, where profit and surveillance trump openness and collaboration. This #mainstreaming path is deeply concerning because it fundamentally contradicts what the web was meant to be, a space for sharing, learning, and connecting without the old gatekeepers.

There is a movement to reverse this trend, the #Fediverse, but like meany reboots it’s floundering as it grows through the inrushing of “common sense”. What we need is native #KISS foundations for a thriving #openweb, A path to this is to embrace the #4opens as guiding principles:

• Open Data: Ensuring that information can be freely shared and reused.
• Open Source: Building tools and platforms that anyone can access, modify, and improve.
• Open Standards: Creating interoperable systems that work across platforms and communities.
• Open Process: Making decisions transparently and inclusively to foster trust and collaboration.

This is a simple retelling of the #FOSS process with the addition of #openprocess as is used in the best projects, this is a part of the #nothingnew path we are on.

It’s not enough to critique the #dotcons, we need to actively build alternatives, the #Fediverse has already taken the first set on this path. The next step is focusing our energy on “native” projects like #OMN (Open Media Network), #IndyMediaBack, and #OGB (Open Governance Body), on this path we can create a decentralised, human-centred web that prioritises communities over corporations. These projects are not about recreating the same flawed systems in a slightly different guise; they’re about fundamentally rethinking how we engage with technology, governance, and communication. This rethink is #nothingnew as it’s copying the working structure of grassroots activism.

The time is now to come together and make history by working on these alternatives. The #openweb is not just an ideal; it’s a necessity for a sustainable, democratic future. Let’s reject the illusions of the #closedweb and instead build a web that truly belongs to everyone.

https://hamishcampbell.com/the-web-wasnt-built-by-solo-tech-geniuses/

#4opens #closedweb #dotcons #fediverse #FOSS #indymediaback #KISS #mainstreaming #nothingnew #OGB #OMN #openprocess #openweb

Online we can plant and grow collaborative Networks, coalitions that amplify shared goals and values through projects rooted in the #4opens: #OpenData, #OpenSource, #OpenStandards, and #OpenProcess.

The core #geek role here is tech and media, with the existing decentralised #Fediverse to challenge and change the centralised dominance of big tech #dotcons

@mxfraud

What you talk about here is a truth, but the are issues:

* Yep, a diversity does, but #5W who what where when? Quantify this please.

* The #4opens is a simple retelling of the #FOSS story which has been running much of the code that keeps our society functioning, it's a thing, yes we do add #openprocess so we could talk about that?

* See the #4opens, this is complex and likely needs thought, which we have not done here or in general, maybe time for this?

* How would we hear these voices, where is the "governance" of this space so we can MAKE the assumptions you speak about visible.

*Safety culture is another subject, I talk about this in a few posts somewhere here https://hamishcampbell.com/?s=safety

* I don't know the guy but as you say #bluesky and #nostr both come from the crypto mess we have suffered from for the last 20 years.

* All the project are #4opens so "consent" is a social thing and works differently than we "common sense" think about these things, we do need to talk about this.

* No idea who the guy is, is he worth looking up?

The ##openweb is a framework for human-centric, decentralized technologies built on transparency and collaboration. Its success hinges on trust, and as a slogan suggests, “Technology’s job is to hold the trust in place.” This concept is woven into the ##OMN and ##OGB initiatives, which emphasize community-driven decision-making and adherence to the #4opens principles.

##OGB and consensus, decisions are valid when a wide group of engaged participants achieves consensus. This safeguards against the normal invisible authoritarian control, single individual find it hard to dominate because the collective create and validate the decisions. Trust groups, not individuals, are the seat of power, ensuring better decision-making and accountability.

The role of #4opens, open process, open data, open licences, and open standards—acts as “gatekeepers” for technological decisions. ##Openprocess ensures inclusivity and transparency, blocking decisions that don’t involve public participation. ##Opendata guarantees that shared information is accessible, reducing the potential for siloed control. ##Openlicenses prevent restrictive ownership that could undermine collaboration. ##Openstandards resist fragmentation and force adherence to balance collaborative practices and individual paths. This “soft, swishy” approach avoids rigid authoritarian structures while maintaining ##KISS robust, “enforceable” values.

let’s look at challenges and strategies for ##OMN combatting ##mainstreaming “common sense” practices that erode grassroots values. By build strong defaults into projects and hardcode the #4opens principles to keep them central. To make this happen, let’s try and stay polite and inclusive during outreach, avoiding burnout and adding mess through conflict.

Dealing with ##fahernistas and trust issues, a significant challenge arises from people and groups who appear trustworthy due to their ##mainstreaming tactics but ultimately undermine the values of the ##openweb. Coders and contributors need to align with ##KISS social change goals, ensuring a grassroots and horizontal approach to development, this is basic.

To do this, we need to work on sustainability efforts by avoid overloading projects with unnecessary features, “How does this fit into the #4opens?”. One path is to balance “friction” as a positive filter for misguided additions, while maintaining a welcoming environment for constructive collaboration.

Building a future beyond the ##geekproblem, the “problem” originates from early open-source projects that ##block the social dimensions of their technologies. By integrating the #4opens and prioritizing trust networks, the ##openweb can (re)evolve into a human value network rather than a technological dead-end.

The ##deathcult feeding off the decay of the ##openweb perpetuates centralized and exploitative systems. All our activism is about, focusing on planting seeds for a grassroots rebirth, ##nothingnew is a starting point, returning focus on modernist principles—clear goals, collective action, and systemic solutions—provides a foundation to grow ##somethingnew.

The ##openweb vs. ##closedweb debate is not new, but it remains a critical narrative. By holding technology accountable to trust and community values, we create tools that empower rather than exploit. The ##OMN and ##OGB projects embody this path.

For those interested in coding for change, visit the OMN wiki and join the effort to make this vision a reality, please. Or you can donate some funding here if you don’t feel confident with tech path.

https://hamishcampbell.com/building-trust-in-the-openweb/

#4opens #block #closedweb #deathcult #fahernistas #geekproblem #KISS #mainstreaming #nothingnew #OGB #OMN #opendata #Openlicenses #openprocess #openstandards #openweb #somethingnew