Before BorgSoft bought GH, it was possible to see all text and images in public repos without logging in or running their JS.
@redstarfish
> So, I would say lack of awareness
If GH had always been that way, maybe. But changing it to be that way? That strongly suggests it's intentional. A way to force people to run their JS, which is exactly the opposite of the direction the web needs to be going in.
A reminder that if I browse your "website" with JavaScript turned off, and it doesn't at least show me text, images, basic CSS layout, and working links, it's *not a website*. If you put stuff up on a web address, please make sure there's a website there.
I'm trying to archive a web page on FarceBook using archive.is, using a mobile browser and a cell network connection. So far it's taken at least half an hour and it's still going. WTF?!
All I want to see is the text and maybe the images FFS. #MakeJavaScriptOptional!
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@alcinnz
> I get the impression in trying kill they turned the web into Flash.
An over-complex inscrutable hard-to-secure system pushing DRM on us
Modern JavaScript includes all the evils of Flash, except being forced to knowingly install a proprietary plugin in your browser. Now almost every website *is* a proprietary plugin, installed in your browser without your knowledge.
"The web used to be a wonderful way to share information.
Web apps and mandatory JavaScript have turned it into the worst app store.
It is time to separate the WWWonderful from the WWWorst practices."
lxo@gnusocial.jp
When modern web browsers encounter a website served only over HTTP (not HTTPS), they stonewall the person browsing with an error page. I really wish that they'd just browse the page with JavaScript off, and give an error message saying so.
Bonus points for extracting at least the text, links, and images, from sites that depend on JS to display those. But really, people shouldn't ever make sites like that, what I call "j-sites"
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I accidentally archived a copy of the 404 error page on GritHub;
As it processed, I was marvelling at the amount of JavaScript my browser has to load, just to tell me GritHub can't find the page I'm looking for.
CR(APP)IFICATION? so bitcoin.com went from this (the ability to read an article without any javascript):
https://web.archive.org/web/20230323222309/https://news.bitcoin.com/operation-chokepoint-bitcoin-advocates-discuss-us-governments-alleged-mission-to-eliminate-crypto-access/
....to this ("You need to enable JavaScript to run this app."):
https://web.archive.org/web/20240927085107/https://news.bitcoin.com/operation-chokepoint-bitcoin-advocates-discuss-us-governments-alleged-mission-to-eliminate-crypto-access/
Big thanks to the world's archive @internetarchive
#waste #crAppification #makeJavascriptOptional #bitcoin #operationChokepoint @sun
IMHO there ought to robust privacy laws, in every jurisdiction, that ban this kind of rampant DataFarming. Am I the only person who continues to be shocked by the fact that this kind of practice not only considered acceptable by the industry, but normal?!?
Stefan Korn is not wrong that public service website need to be simple static sites. Which can be accessed by voice assistants just as easily as web browsers without JavaScript (#MakeJavaScriptOptional!).
He's just wrong that they're not already designed that way.
He either doesn't know about NZ government website standards like Web Accessibility Standard 1.1;
https://digital.govt.nz/standards-and-guidance/
... or he's hoping that you don't.
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