@clankussy my problem is that @GrapheneOS are a bunch of snobbish dipshits that completely ignore the reality of most people.
@GrapheneOS / #GrapheneOS partnering with #AntiRepairDesign - Fans of #Motorola who literally argue against #LongTermSupport of their devices in defiance to @EUCommission standards are just bad.
@yourfutureex besides @nitrokey I only know @libreleah selling #OpenSourveFirmware devices, tho not hardened…
AFAIK #GSMK - and @monocles only sell #Smartphones, not Laptops or Desktops!
@halotroop2288 +9001%?
The only cirrect approach is to use #FLOSS that isn't shacked to a proprietary #Govware of a corporation that happily serves it's customers' data on a silver platter when asked about it.
@micahflee lemme guess: @eff just took a multi-network eSIM and multi-network WWAN modules to scan for "#deauth" / "#EvilTwin" attacks?
Cuz I remember @heiseonline or @golem actually suggest this as a method to detect #IMSIcatchers without requiring an expensive #SDR:
AFAIK #GSMK uses that same technique for their #Baseband-#Firewall to automatically detect #Interception attempts and deploy countermeasures!
@AAKL @TechCrunch @lorenzofb nothing new - this is a constant issue since #GSM was designed, including the ability to #downgrade the #link and #disable any #encryption without the user being notified.
AFAIK there are few devices that even have a "#Baseband #Firewall" (I'm not shure @GrapheneOS has, but I know #GSMK's Devices since the Cryptophone 500 have...
@icedquinn @tasket even then I'm shure they didn't even come close to the security requirements of @GrapheneOS ...
Since #GSMK's work is "source available" I'd love to see how much they are similar, but I know that none of the #GrapheneOS devs will even look at that code for legitimate reasons...
OFC, I don't expect @GrapheneOS to churn out a device in record time - that's not how it works...
I merely acknowledge this as a necessary long-term shift that'll take 5-10+ years and lots of funding.
Tho with companies like #GSMK making decent revenue, it's expectable that #Graphene could really get #funding or at least #vendors to partner with them.
Kevin Karhan 
Sven Geggus