@erwinrossen
> Is the alternative you propose "Don't do good" or "Try to do good, but in a random way without caring if it actually helps"?

there are problems with the belief that •donating money• is central to •doing good•.

i am not saying you have these beliefs. since you yourself are vegan, you can probably see these problems too.

one problem is this: organisations, who want more money, have an incentive to overstate the effect of donations (to receive more of them) and an incentive to understate the effect of personal change (so as to not alienate potential donors who are hostile towards change).

therefore, you have organisations like #farmkind who tell people to NOT go vegan but just give them money, because it is scientifically proven to be more effective to do this instead.

organisations like #DanishVegetarianSociety have joined this campaign, and they are hosting meat-eating competitions — for the animals. they justify this approach with research and statistics.

i have attached an ad for their #CompassionCalculator app.

what i suggest is this: when people argue something that sounds absurd, then i don't care and i don't think others should care whatever "research" is used to justify this. the alternative to acting according to this "science" is not to act randomly.

instead i suggest listening to your own heart and those around you who make sensible arguments.

if you like, i can share one or two absurd arguments that effective altruists have made to me.

thank you for having this discussion with me, and most of all: thank you for being #vegan.

@ask @dj_brevet
og når folk så er oppe at køre så er det vigtigt de kører den rigtige vej.

er så træt af alt det pis med #øko #friland #burfri #fritgående #lokalt #AnbefaletAfDyrenesBeskyttelse #mindrekød #vegetarisk #BedreVelfærd #StopTurboKylling #CompassionCalculator #FarmKind #DyrenesVenner !

væk med det #welfarewashing af #dyremishandling og mere af »12 år i fængsel for at købe og sælge kød«
https://presse-fotos.dk/aktivistgruppe-vil-i-folketinget-faengselsstraf-for-at-koebe-koed/

nok af#AndersMorgenthaler's »du må godt spise flæskesteg«-lort —
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/anders-morgenthaler-85b38a_enig-activity-7274042102030745601-jE1a

der skal væltes nogle tallerkerner og borde til familiesammenkomsterne, i stedet for bare at komme op og køre over manglende handling fra "politikerne" eller exporten til "de fremmede"

@malte netop.

#DanskVegetariskForening er en del af #FarmKind-kampagnen, hvor kødelskere »ikke behøver at ændre et eneste måltid,« så længe de køber de her offsets.

du kan se #DVF's logo i reklamen for #compassioncalculator app. rune er med i #Farmkind's video her.

https://www.farmkind.giving/animal-charities/dansk-vegetarisk-forening

🍽️ det nye budskab fra #DanskVegetariskForening: »du behøver ikke stoppe med at spise dyr, hvis bare du giver os penge i stedet for.«

💶 logikken er at man i stedet for at spise #plantebaseret kan kompensere for #dyremishandling ved at donere penge til en #NGO (såsom #DVF), der arbejder for at folk skal spise #plantebaseret.

🍖 problemet er bare, at #DVF ikke længere arbejder for at folk skal spise #plantebaseret, når de fortæller folk, at det er fint at spise #kød, hvis bare de giver dem penge.

🤑 ingen aktivisme tilbage længere, bare penge.

#FarmKind #CompassionCalculator #EffectiveAltruism #ForgetVeganuary #vegan #vegansk #GoVegan #reducitarianism #LessMeat #hykleri #hypocricy #PoesLaw

Heel veel mensen zijn wel tegen de bio-industrie, maar vinden het moeilijk om hun dieet aan te passen. Speciaal voor heen heeft #FarmKind een #CompassionCalculator gemaakt. Het werkt als carbon offsetting, maar dan voor je dieet! Bereken hoeveel jij bijdraagt aan dierenleed met je dieet, en bepaal welk bedrag aan effectieve goede doelen dit zou compenseren. 🌏❤️🐄💸

🧮 https://www.farmkind.giving/compassion-calculator

Om daadwerkelijk effectief te doneren:
🇳🇱 https://doneereffectief.nl/
🇧🇪 https://www.effectiefgeven.be/

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