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Paul Werner, PhD
#artcritic; #culturalcritic; #artist
Editor, WOID, a journal of visual language
Publisher, The Orange
http://woid.org
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https://theorangepress.com
https://independent.academia.edu/PaulWerner3
https://www.verifiedjournalist.org/people/@[email protected]

Museum, Inc. (Runner-up, Book Critics' Circle Award); (English, French, Italian & (pending) Farsi.

Jump Jim Corot. Cash, class and Culture at the Metropolitan Museum of Art.

@jeff @bbak @fiee @Seltsam @unearth When I start hearing this kind of talk from an ex-cop who loves guns is when I decide it's time to move on. See ya!
@bbak @fiee @Seltsam @jeff @unearth It's not my job to talk to you or listen to you--I'm not your fucking slave this time around. You think you don't have a problem? That's your problem right there.
@bbak @fiee @Seltsam @jeff @unearth
Person you should begin by asking yourself whether Jews (or any other "faith") have a problem with you?
@ebrandom Ha! That "Debatte I quoted" was myself and a bunch of perfectly nice community planners and such who, just like Stromquist and Ritter, couldn't tell the difference between Socialism and social services--in other terms, like S. & R. they were only too happy to confuse pre-1933 SDP with their own brand of "Socialism" -- or in their case, SDAP with SPÖ.
In the midst of the discussion I casually mentioned the influence of Red Vienna thought on 'May 68.
@ebrandom
More polite. „Ich finde, Sie versuchen hier die Quadratur des Kreises. Es ist ziemlich unsinnig […] die Frage der Institutionen durch die Perspektive dieser Institutionen zu sehen.“ Paul Werner, „Debatte,“ in Das Rote Wien 1919-1934. Ideen Debatten Praxis (Wien Museum, 2019), S. 414.
@ebrandom You're right. It's not fair of me to dump on the author if, as you state, he's quotes from a 1960s book that may or may not be quoting someone from the pre WWI SPD, although the whole thing would be preposterous post WWI in Austria or Germany. And since I don't know who's being quoted, or when, or in what context (and not getting paid to do so) I can only point to the motivation behind the use or misuse of the quote, which is straight out of '60s red-baiting. I know whereof I speak.
@ebrandom Maybe I have a personal thing about institutionalized red-baiting?
@ebrandom Actually it's bullshit. I see you got it from the entry "Municipal Socialism" in the Cambridge History of Socialism, which begins by arguing for Red Vienna as the model for Municipal Socialism. As far as evidence for this "dilemna," I know my primary sources pretty well. And it just isn't there. As for historian wankers--yeah, glad to show where this particular wanker got his masturbation fantasy, jerking off on other historians I could name. Contact me to discuss my fee.
@fiee @Seltsam @jeff @unearth And you sure as shit don't want to be a Jew in Germany today, either. The only thing the Übermensch have learned is to hide it better.
@hyperallergic Best issue of Hyperalelrgic yet!