@Chancerubbage I think the idea was to highlight the Apple products that were groundbreakingly successful: Mac, iPod, the PowerBook, etc. Not everything that Apple produced.

I would say that the Lisa was groundbreaking in that it defined the fundamentals of graphical user interfaces—ideas that become industry standards with the Mac—but as a product, it was not a commercial success.

@daringfireball Bizarre. If Donald Trump was a stock, there's no way guys like Huang would be going all-in on it. They'd see it as overhyped and soon-to-be-worthless; a bad investment.

Should be pretty clear at this point that the measures Huang et al have taken to ingratiate themselves with Trump will age like support for the Iraq war. I doubt it'll be a year or two before these people are trying to distance themselves from everything they did. I don't get why Huang is still digging that hole.

@alexcox I have most of those! I didn't know about some of them, though—adding those to the list.

Not sure if you ever read "West of Eden", by Frank Rose, but that's an excellent one. I also recommend "Apple: The Inside Story of Intrigue, Egomania, and Business Blunders", by Jim Carlton.

@splorp @proedie @likesoldmacs @morgant @falken This is an interesting read: https://lowendmac.com/2013/the-story-behind-apples-newton/

I think Apple definitely could have made an affordable tablet if they'd wanted to. Sounded like the main problem was deciding what compromises to make. There was a sentiment that an underpowered Newton was worse than an unaffordable one; even the final, small version was more tablet-ish than pocket-sized, just because of everything they wanted it to do.