There is no "gender war."

#Male #Female #Gender #Equality

@Rasta women care, men are forced not to, they don't make the rules
@Rasta It's always the same classical plot, well organized by power control elites (political, religious, economical).
Having a compact antagonist would be dangerous for them, so it's more convenient planting all the seeds of discord, fragmenting any block. Divide et impera.
Men against women, against any gender, against any social group, against foreigners, against immigrants, ... Then providing a religion, a political party, a repression scheme, that will promise to solve problems you hadn't
@Rasta men would not exist without women ...
@Rasta it's just gender terrorism, from the cis-het mostly-male epstein-class against all other people.
@Rasta Or rather, yes... there has been a gender war, and it has been going on for thousands of years, and it is always against everyone but men.
@Remittancegirl @Rasta This is not excuse making, but it can be viewed as an evolutionary development, but still an issue that needs adjusting. A StarTrekNextGen episode featured a planet where the women were dominant and the men subservient.
An argument might be, humans tend to sieze advantages where they can find them, applied to many elements, sex, ethnicity, etc. Recognition would be just a first step.
@Rasta So just like the culture war, again also being a war on everyone else who isn't a white male.
@nini Pretty sure that's the rule they want

@Rasta

'Gender War' and it's just women reasonably blaming majority of men in horrible things they did and keep doing.

@Rasta -- those are the things that men do to women, but you haven't listed the things women do to men.

to save you the trouble of saying they don't exist, consider that most of us were raised by women, our values and ideas about the world and ourselves were put there by women. that's right up there with the things you list.

i didn't say there was a "gender war" -- i'd say we create each other. and the women do the vast majority of the creating.

@Rasta --

and btw -- women do the PR. that's why you generally only hear one side of this. ;-)

@davew Because the other side is so insignificant as to be missing the whole point of inequality between men and women. There's nothing equal about it,
@davew
It's like a claim of White Rights, as if they were ever oppressed. Since biblical times, MAN is in charge, and women get less.
We haven't listed all the things men do to men, or women do to women either, that;'s the same gender

@Rasta

this is why usually don't chime in this permathread, you could be a robot, that's what they always say, in other words it wouldn't matter what i said, you would just say the exact same boilerplate. boring.

@davew
You are not obliged to reply, this isn't a specific targeted post to people who like to debate what gender equality means to them. I've traveled a lot in my life, seen women treated differently by culture, race, country, and employment, etc. I've never seen it like that with men. You should do more research or a poll,. Some men think women hate them. I can't argue with their opinion, but they are probably right.

@davew @Rasta you’re talking about individual women doing things to men.

The OP is talking about SYSTEMIC issues. There’s a difference.

@davew
Tu insinue que ma mère aurait fait de moi le con raciste misogyne et LGBTQIA+phobe que je suis ?
Je ne peut pas te laisser dire ça elle n'y est pour rien
C'est en socialisant avec des personnes comme toi que je suis devenu cet idiot 🤣
@Rasta
@Rasta Short and sweet; women care, men dare. That is the base of repression that we have been subject to in our culture for centuries.
@Rasta Everything you mention for women, also holds for #LHBTIQ people (vs. heterosexual males, in rare cases also heterosexual females).
@Rasta I don't think you live in a "common" reality with others. Even nowadays, in "western" rural communities where wealth is sparse and day-to-day life depends on hard manual labour, the priority of educating the offspring goes towards the girl, the boy is fine for "hardwork".
@tonanio
And how does that relate to equality.?
@tonanio @Rasta What you're describing is individual families making decisions about priorities. What Rasta described is governments and universities banning women from higher education. These things are not the same.
@Space_Burger_Steve @Rasta And thus my point, saying that waves are flat is not correct, there are differences of treatment between genders that go from 8 to 80 and back. Saying it's only towards "one side" IS incorrect.

@tonanio @Rasta Read the original post again, it's about systemic oppression, about laws made by governments. Legal barriers against bodily autonomy, voting, owning property, getting a degree, etc. Laws targeting women, passed by mostly or entirely male governments.

Your point about cultural norms is off topic. Perhaps you could give us a recent example of a mostly female government giving men fewer rights than women? Good luck.

@tonanio @Rasta And yet, the boy will still inherit the farm (and if you're talking western North America farms, they may be low on cash flow but the land is worth literal *millions*). The girl gets an education because she's expected to find her own way (or be "desirable" enough to marry into another rural family)

Frensh translation : Il n'y a pas de « guerre des sexes ». Les femmes n'ont pas privé les hommes du droit de vote. Les femmes n'ont pas interdit aux hommes l'accès à l'éducation ou à la propriété.
Les femmes n'ont pas rédigé de lois régissant le corps des hommes.
Les femmes n'ont pas mis en place de systèmes privant les hommes de leur liberté. Le déséquilibre n'a jamais fonctionné dans les deux sens.

@Rasta

@Rasta false news. Actually girls get extra points for gender in some schools, so
@mattesilver Name a school? It might be different today, but I went to move schools than years, in two countries, and that hasn't been my observation
@Rasta This seems to be a phrase coined by the (American) far right and adopted by lazy (or supportive) journalism.
@terryb I don't think inequality needs journalism. This wasn't a press release, just a list of facts of inequality. You may have heard of PINK TAX, another inequality?
@Rasta There is a war against trans people. also in Canada. germany, US everywhere. They are trying to regulate AMAB bodies.
@Rasta Il y a un guerre contre les gen transgenre, aussi au Canada, en Allemagne, Etats Unis, Australië partout. Ils essaient regulier les corps qui sont nés comme un homme. Ce sont les même politiciens et politiciennes (malhereusement) qui essaient controller les corps femme.
@canleaf
Les hommes tentent de contrôler tous ceux qui ne sont pas des hommes cisgenres.
@Rasta friendly addition: you can add another axis by saying all the things trans people didn't do to cis people.
@adub
or just LGBTQ+ together.
I know only one Trans person personally, maybe another. I know several online.
Other than saying they were Trans, that's the only time it came up.
In my entire life, I have found nothing negative to say about any of it.
You have to hate pretty bad to make something an issue so you can go after it.

@Rasta

To be honnest there *is* a gender war. Just not a symetrical one.

It's a war against women.

It's like the American Indian Wars. One side kills, rapes, steals, etc., the other tries to survive.

@Rasta Yet, there is a war of men against women and their rights. Yes, I know that’s obvious. 😐