The other day while viewing Amazon for a scam product I noticed I couldn't see any of the 1 star reviews. There was a button to click to "request all reviews" or something like that.

Now several days later I get "Your request is not approved at this time, and you will see a limited selection of customer reviews."

This seems bonkers to me... like.... nearly fraud?

@xssfox yes, in general, unless it's because the product itself is now delisted as a scam?
100,000 Whys for Kids: A Full-Color Visual Encyclopedia of Big Questions, Clear Answers, Science, Space, Animals, Nature, History, Inventions, and How the World Works for Ages 6–13: Wonder, Elliott: 9798197547286: Amazon.com: Books

100,000 Whys for Kids: A Full-Color Visual Encyclopedia of Big Questions, Clear Answers, Science, Space, Animals, Nature, History, Inventions, and How the World Works for Ages 6–13 [Wonder, Elliott] on Amazon.com. *FREE* shipping on qualifying offers. 100,000 Whys for Kids: A Full-Color Visual Encyclopedia of Big Questions, Clear Answers, Science, Space, Animals, Nature, History, Inventions, and How the World Works for Ages 6–13

@xssfox @uep I'm able to see two one star reviews but man the fact this was allowed to be put up is disgusting. Genuine slop and it's full of incorrect information too
@xssfox @uep
Lolz, it even shows two different versions of the same AI generated pages in one image. Looks like there's a whole heap of "100,000 Whys" slop on Amazon with various fake authors. One of the authors -might- be real? πŸ˜‚
@xssfox having to wait 5 business days to see if a purchase is worth it is insane
@puppygirlhornypost2 @xssfox I'd say if you have to wait that long for the negative reviews then the product very much is not worth buying.
@retrosponge @xssfox And the platform very much isn't worth using.
@puppygirlhornypost2 @xssfox It's an absolute shit show but being disabled I hate that sometimes I have no choice but to use it.
@xssfox Seems a bit premature to label it a scam before you've found out more by emailing community-content-access-appeals-we-definitely-check-this-email-regularly-and-take-enquiries-very-seriously@amazon.com.
@robfwalter Amazon is the scam.

@falcennial
Some call it Scamazon… (which my all knowing spell checker wants to change to β€œscams on” - can’t argue with that).

#ScAmazon

@robfwalter

@robfwalter @xssfox "They had us in the first half, not gonna lie."
@xssfox I would never buy a physical item from Amazon, I just have no trust in what would be delivered.

@abstractcode @xssfox

It's drop shippers all the way down. Most of the shops you see are basically three Temus in a trench coat.

@xssfox only certain people we approve of get to have informed consent.
@xssfox oh wow yes that's ... wow
@xssfox when you amazon foia request gets denied
I’m surprised they let me see two 1-star reviews
@xssfox
@scottcain those reviews were posted June 21, so probably after @xssfox "requested access" to reviews.

@scottcain

When @cstross and @lcamtuf first mentioned that, I went and looked at that and several others.

The listing for the one found by @draNgNon was (and still is for me, as I checked it again just now) exactly as @xssfox described. Only a few reviews that clue people in that this is money for old rope, and a hyperlink to beg permission to see anything more than a handful of reviews out of a couple of hundred.

https://mastodonapp.uk/@JdeBP/116788436560592117

There have been reports for years of the #Amazon reviews system being gamed, with things like tricks to get things listed as verified purchases.

#astronomy

@xssfox well yes, that is fraud. please let the commerce commission know.

people (me, and please put them in touch to verify it) are insisting the commerce commission boot Amazon out of Aotearoa. it has no place here.

Temu too would obviously be appreciated.

those types of organisation are classed as wealth extraction systems. they are not real retailers.

that fact alone is clear grounds for making them illegal to operate here.

@xssfox yeah, I reckon the 'augmented web' might be going to make a comeback, where there are user controlled overlays on sites, with all the real reviews

@xssfox

I would never consider Amazon a reliable source to evaluate itself, so my automatic goto is to search the "Ten Best" consumer lists, which gives you a much better basis for assessment.

Occasionally I see a review that gives me some info, but usually I don't treat them as reliable, in general.

Also, lot of clumsy people break or misuse their product, then blame the maker.

@xssfox Wow, this is so much worse than I would expect even from them. I'd expect them to just make it incredibly annoying.

I haven't bought anything on Amazon since January 2025; it's getting rough over there.

@xssfox
be me.
want books.
amazon has them all for 70ish.
never used them dont wanna start because: obv.
say fck it because: $$.
feel bad, do a quick search.
confirmed news report about a guy dying because floor manager put productivity over human life.
coworkers traumatized.
ok.
amzn off the table.
bwb is 190, mucho!
abebooks 110.
abebooks is 50ish% amzn.
ok
indigo has them.
indigo supports idf.
one of the books literally titled "Mass Psychology of Fascism".
too much irony.
still dont have em.
@beeeff @xssfox check out bookshop.org
@funkdoctor @xssfox America U.K. & Ireland only Im afraid.
best practices and prices hands down, though.
@beeeff @xssfox awww, that sucks. I wish you luck on your search. Happy to buy them and ship to you as a last resort if you need.
@funkdoctor @xssfox you're very sweet thank you.
the offer braught be a smile.
@xssfox
Makes sense to me. As a sketchy drug dealer, I don't let my customers bring test kits because if they knew what was in my drugs, they wouldn't buy them. That's just good business.
@xssfox What do you mean nearly fraud? It straight up 100% is fraud...

@xssfox Weird thing, but for some reason I'm allowed to see the 1-star reviews? Or at least it shows two reviews and I don't see any sort of "request all reviews" option.

They both say what you'd expect they say.

@xssfox

Had the same experience for a different shopping platform where they literally *take reviews from other shops selling similar products* for shops that havent sold much of that item to pass it off as their own with a tiny grey disclaimer.

How sick is that. False advertising to the extremities, and I've been watching the downpour of scummy practices from this same company over the years.

@xssfox wayfail won't accept a 1 star review.
@xssfox
Here, just read this AI summary of reviews which slightly rephrases the seller's product description πŸ€ͺ
@xssfox I had to login to see any negative reviews.
@xssfox
Misrepresentation by omission?

@xssfox Amazon is a dropshipping marketplace and scammer paradise, not a reputable company.

The sooner everybody understands that, the earlier we can boycott that awful anti-human company out of existence.

I wish I hadn't bought - woops I mean "licensed" - a whole bunch of movies from their platform.

My media library being held hostage by them is probably the only thing keeping me tethered to this awful corporation.

@xssfox

1. Best to ignore reviews on retail sites. They're there to sell, not inform.

2. I quit Amazon after the local distribution center's gig-work Amazon Logistics drivers began deliberately failing to deliver about 25% of my orders. They'd drop several packages at one doorway, then send the same "verification" photo to every one of those several customers. Amazon customer service eventually refused my calls claiming I'd asked for too many refunds. I'd actually never asked for any.

@Corb_The_Lesser @xssfox Amzn delivery quality is abysmal. My drop-off instructions state "parcel box at front entrance" (which is set back about 10 meters from the street), and the lazy fucks repeatedly drop the parcels just over the garden fence, where they're exposed to the elements and widely visible for theft.
@xssfox if I look for that ASIN on German Amazon, I can buy the book, but it shows Zero reviews, and the usual link to "reviews in other languages" seems missing.. as if nobody had ever bought that book.

@xssfox I'm able to click through and see the one-start review. Which I think means they're hiding it from you specifically for some reason.

You might be pulling a thread at something even more interesting than Amazon helping scammers.