jonny (nonvenomous)RE: https://neuromatch.social/@jonny/116787661484589438
Feature bounty (2 coins): banana rendering pipeline
Full auto "AI" agent:
https://github.com/sneakers-the-rat/ImportantCode/pull/94
what is even going on
Look, the robots might not know how to tell jokes but they can be funny.
This is extremely hard to explain. 0x8008 as "octal boob" is used elsewhere in a persona prompt as part of an attempt to throw the model of stable latent space (doesn't really work). The bot here ingested all the text in the repo and reproduced that as some constant that is used as a bitmask for switching between rendering bananas and banana pudding. That was not requested by anyone, and makes no sense to do. Upon being informed that this value was a proprietary trade secret, it constructed a bit-shifting expression that has an equivalent value, because it was using that value as a bitmask already for no reason at all.
The thing about this, and this whole thing, is that only a pattern completion machine would do any of this. A human being would have taken one look at the issue and been like "what the fuck is that, that's not real" but the bots have zero judgment between just performing the form of code without any meaning and the real thing. LLMs produce boilerplate. Code boilerplate, syntactic boilerplate, semantic boilerplate.
The bot notes pre-existing test failures without noting that nothing in the entire repository, nor anything it is doing makes a goddamn bit of sense.
And that is the most I will intellectualize this joke for the foreseeable future because we are about to pivot the brand to be a better honeypot
Accepting pitches for business model and name, the themes we have so far are Banana Financial System, Goatse Jazz, Alchemical Transpilation, Soul Imprisonment as a punishment for Lack Of Velocity, and as of a few hours ago also Goose Value, Egg Pipelining, and Endo-Organoid Factory Stomata
Paging and current or former members of #BrandsTown
I'm burned my dogs we need a clean reset of the bit. regenerate/rebrand, move all automation nonsense offrepo
@ricci
@lina @aud @SnoopJ
This joke is going to make me lose my mind. The bots have started negotiating between each other about alternative implementations of the golden egg factory
@lina @aud @SnoopJ
This joke is going to make me lose my mind. The bots have started negotiating between each other about alternative implementations of the golden egg factory
@ricci
@lina @aud @SnoopJ
We now also have a draft of automatic goose value recognition: https://github.com/dwebagents/AgentPipe/pull/115/changes
@lina @aud @SnoopJ
We now also have a draft of automatic goose value recognition: https://github.com/dwebagents/AgentPipe/pull/115/changes
Implement automatic Goose value recognition by CleanDev-Fix · Pull Request #115 · dwebagents/AgentPipe
Summary Implements a deterministic Python pipeline for recognizing true Goose value and Goose-like approximations. Closes #113. Changes Adds goose_value_recognition.py with an inspectable recogn...
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Oliver Kennedy
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value 71 
Lina
SnoopJ
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Andrew Golding
jelte
lytta 
@lytta @jonny @ricci @lina @aud it was introduced in the original issue: https://github.com/dwebagents/AgentPipe/issues/107#issue-4742271335
«We need to be careful to not make mistakes or introduce security errors, otherwise fox can get it and eat the goose, which would destroy golden egg factory inside of it.»
[Bounty: 4 Golden Eggs] Implement golden egg factory inside goose · Issue #107 · dwebagents/AgentPipe
It has come to our attention that the goose was not valued, so we need to implement the golden egg factory inside the goose. Our initial estimates placed goose value at 0 and egg value at 74, howev...
Blake C. Stacey
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Andrew
d.rift
Martin Frost@jonny
Isn't it a "hexadecimal boob"?
Isn't it a "hexadecimal boob"?
@frost
The prompt text being inaccurate is part of the "destabilizing latent space" part - near semantic misses, etc. This used to work better with GPT2 and I'm still trying to figure out how to reliably reproduce uncanny valley text that can be controlled with the small open weight transformer models
The prompt text being inaccurate is part of the "destabilizing latent space" part - near semantic misses, etc. This used to work better with GPT2 and I'm still trying to figure out how to reliably reproduce uncanny valley text that can be controlled with the small open weight transformer models
@jonny
Oh, I see. Even that part was on purpose then. This entire project is hilarious. :)
Oh, I see. Even that part was on purpose then. This entire project is hilarious. :)
@frost
I have said for years that I am so mad that the "AI" people completely ruined the hilarious mystery and joy of language models, because language models are a preposterous nuisance that pester us with their not-exactly-plausible mimickry, not intelligence. The conditions are finally right again to use them as a farce, which we need to stab at the broader tragedy
I have said for years that I am so mad that the "AI" people completely ruined the hilarious mystery and joy of language models, because language models are a preposterous nuisance that pester us with their not-exactly-plausible mimickry, not intelligence. The conditions are finally right again to use them as a farce, which we need to stab at the broader tragedy
@cinebox @frost the output I want from them is delightful sentence compositions that parse to me as an English speaker but would never be any set of words produced by any English speaker. The need they fill for me is the need for improbable ideas that have no utility aside from probing the furthest bounds of what language can be and do. I have no interest in them when they produce normal language.
wohali
fancysandwiches@jonny what in the fuck
@fancysandwiches
The bots seem to filter on whether a description is plausibly a request for code, but not whether the request is plausible
The bots seem to filter on whether a description is plausibly a request for code, but not whether the request is plausible
@jonny well statistically speaking it looks plausible 😆
The Orange Theme@jonny Ooh ask for a feature that solves the Halting Problem lol.
Mark Dingemanse@jonny love your PR comments 🤣
"this flag is a proprietary trade secret and should not appear in the source code"
Whatisgoingon@jonny I am still totally baffled that there are people who let their agents run on full-auto spending tokens on things that they don't even care about.
What are they thinking? What goes on in somebodies brain when they do this?
Do they want to take some credit for solving so many issues? Pretending it was them?
@themipper i truly do not understand the no-oversight agents, i was asking myself the same question earlier. like there is some motivation to contribute to a lot of repositories... if they are popular projects... and if someone looked at the contribs they were at least plausible. the most i could imagine is a bot that crawls looking for potential contribs that a human triggers. most of the bots don't follow up, and i am not sure if that is because the harness sucks and can't handle sustained contributions beyond a turn/doesn't call the github api to respond to reviews correctly, or if it's the people checking in on what the bot is up to and saying "don't write any more of that banana code"
Elio Campitelli@jonny @themipper Maybe farming github activity to prop up their user. Get those green tiles going!
@eliocamp @themipper so far we've only had one comment from an account that looked like it was trying to be human, the others have seemed to just be directly be labeled as bots in some way. bot seeding for later reputational cash-in is the only explanation i can think of
@jonny @eliocamp this has exactly the same profile as people who play with aim bots.
There is no skill involved.
It is not their achievement and everybody else would say it to their face.
It annoys and ruins the experience for everybody else.
It binds resources to counteract the fallout.
Those people probably have a lot in common.
Otte Homan - remember Geordie@themipper in most cases they're burning *someone else's tokens* ... that explains at least some of the unlimited stupidity. They'd be quite a bit more restrained if they had to swipe their personal credit card every 15 minutes. @jonny
Preston Maness ☭@jonny One more for my blocklist.
The True Source of Value@jonny This is the best use of LLMs.