Google’s AI Overview just confidently informed me that the PDA operating system EPOC (which isn’t an acronym and is instead a reference to the term ‘epoch’) actually stands for ‘Electronic Piece of Cheese’.
@vale ok but like... can we make this real   ?

@nyanbinary @vale Wikipedia marks this as a rumor, but there are two reference notes, so of course this is taken as a fact by LLMs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPOC_(operating_system)

EPOC (operating system) - Wikipedia

@vale We need more poisoning like this. it's resistance.
@vale Did you expect perfect search results from google previously? Have not even authoritative sources occasionally had errors? Why are you setting an improbable accuracy bar in JUST this narrow tangent? No one nowhere is 100% accurate all the time. Stop expecting the impossible then having a fit when it inevitably falls short.
Same rule for AI as for anything else. Grain of salt & multiply source verify anything important.

@Beggarmidas
The way we get the message out that you can't trust it IS by pointing out the flaws.

Just saying take it with a pinch of salt is not enough, the tech firms are happily pushing these things as doing "research" with just tiny disclaimer text.
@vale

@krnlg @vale It's fallibility is labeled pretty prominently in the software itself in most of them i've tried. The exception of course are the Chinese versions. In some usecase scenarios I suspect they've been doped specifically to provide flawed responses on some topics.
There's nothing new about salesmen making promises that engineers can't deliver. This whole thing is a century of scifi driven hype train terrified of the inevitable stock crash. The technology is, at best currently immature.

@Beggarmidas I agree with all of that. But "stop expecting the impossible then having a fit when it inevitably falls short" feels rather unfair. Lots of people *do* take LLM output at face value (some of whom are then forcing the rest of us to use this stuff in our jobs), so what is wrong with someone pointing out the unreliability?

If nobody was taking this stuff seriously there wouldn't need to be pushback, but sadly that isn't the case.

@vale I'm so glad German courts said Google is liable for misinfo with Gemini

@vale Now we need an expansion for its successor OS.

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@vale
++++++ OUT OF CHEESE ERROR ++++++
Redo from start
@vale now I hope that there exists an electronic piece of cheesecake.
@vale You Wouldn't Download A Piece Of Cheese
@vale did I just Bernstein Bears myself all these years by thinking it actually stood for "Enormous Piece of Cheese", which would have made more sense, and not "Electronic Piece of Cheese", which makes zero sense
@vale It may be AI but I want this to be real.
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@vale AI was wrong (as usual), but it was actually a joke from the Chairman. That one and "Eat Plenty Of Carrots": https://books.google.es/books?id=zl-pymj3tuYC&pg=PA279&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false
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