Joaquim HomrighausenAge verification ...
#privacy #privacymatters #ageverification #socialmedia #surveillance #dataskydd #dataprotection #gdpr #deepstate
Ian Garcez@joho would like to hear a reason to worry about this that does not imply that one might be a child predator.
Ovidi Nawer@Nawer_Rapter @joho how is age related with sexual orientation?
Juho MäntysaloThey're not asking solely age. Remember that the drive to ask for IDs is led by Meta. They're using this platform partly to divert blame, but also part to increase the accuracy of their profiles. Which everyone has, as Facebook has cookies on vast majority of websites, not just their own.
Second, they're not asking age solely on sites intended for kids, but on places where people would talk of their politics and preferences. Such as, say, gay person in Russia.
It is. This isn't about pedofiles per se, but that kids are using Meta's services before they're of minimum age (iirc 13...16 depending on location). As Meta's services are repeatedly proven to be bad for mental health by design (as happy people don't spend monies), they can't fix the root cause.
So instead of overhauling their systems to be healthy, they're trying to get everyone to give them their IDs.
It's essentially the same discussion as with tobacco.
@iju @Nawer_Rapter @joho argh, but then, if we imagine that they would revamp their system to be healthy, vulnerables would just migrate to another addictive platform. I would like to see this kind of algorithm effect being forbidden for social media somehow
@gullok @iju @joho Probably the most reliable way and correct way to read all this issue is through the lenses of "if it is problematic for children,it can be problematic for everyone, and thus requires a solution to a problem, rather than a vet of the entire topic"
The true issue at hand here is: gambling mechanisms to get money, and segregation to get money.
The true problem to solve is that the way the world we built pays better for optimizing evil than anything else
Sex is it's another story
The true issue at hand here is: gambling mechanisms to get money, and segregation to get money.
The true problem to solve is that the way the world we built pays better for optimizing evil than anything else
Sex is it's another story
@gullok @iju @joho the excuse of sex, most of the time (if not the entire time) is used to specifically harm two communities: women who have found a kind of work that is safer than it's previous iterations (webcam prostitution vs actual physical prostitution) and queer people. The queers has always been the primary target for saying "kids should never have ever any knowledge about sex or they turn queer and evil and queer and non-christian". Just change "sex" for "queer" and boom, all logical.
@gullok @iju @joho The duality of sex being both a taboo and a thing that everyone does leads to very confusing nonsensical things.What I would call "mystification" (make it obscure but with a lot of silent rules), akin to religious practices from secretive cults. Just on a global scale.
The relationship of children, teenagers and younger people with sex is currently as contradictory as I explained above and only harms them. Demystifying sex is probably the first step to solve that.
The relationship of children, teenagers and younger people with sex is currently as contradictory as I explained above and only harms them. Demystifying sex is probably the first step to solve that.
