POV: Travelling outside of Europe

Source: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZCfUCzhHPR/ #video #reel #europe

@matt
So bottle caps are still an issue?

And am I now supposed to be for or against it? Also: Why?

@s10n @matt bottle caps are a disproportionate share of what washes up on beaches. Whether it's an issue for you depends on whether you prefer a right to pollute or to have a clean beach and generally an environment freer of non-biodegradable waste.

@samueljohnson @matt @aral
So we love them for the little positive effect they have and not hate them for the massive #greenwashing of statistics they are intended for, effectively halving the amount of *seperate* pieces of trash that end up anywhere but the trash?

Just asking, guys.
Glad we're not stuck on the "I can't drink out of a bottle with these connected caps"-non-issue of the discussion anymore.
Wait, looks like we are.

@s10n @matt @aral Sorry, I don't understand your objection. It seems there is nothing the EU does that doesn't irritate some people bc it's too much or not enough.

The vast bulk of bottle caps are now recycled, along with the rest of plastic bottles on which a deposit is now paid. To many morons, the kind that likes to toss such things out car windows, this is tyranny. If they were responsible people we wouldn't need tethered caps and deposits.

@samueljohnson @s10n @matt @aral It's also often a bliss that I no longer accidentally drop a bottle cap while drinking and or handling the cap. Less stress when I don't want to finish the contents in one go and carry the bottle some distance. (Though just last week I wss served a bottle of water with an old style cap on a train in Germany. No idea why.)

@s10n @matt @aral Perhaps before resorting to jibes about #greenwashing it would be an idea to become familiar with the facts?

Here's some information for one country

https://www.rte.ie/news/2024/1024/1477146-bottle-collection/

@samueljohnson @matt @aral
You realize Irelands deposit scheme has little to do with the EUs decision to connect caps to bottles, do you?

The main reason was indeed the statistical one (turning to pieces of trash into one).
Not saying it's a bad thing, I'm actually all for it and find it laughable, when people claim they can't use bottles anymore. But let's not overstate the bottlecap-thing.
If the EU actually wanted to do something about plastic waste, they'd push towards glass bottles.

@s10n @matt @aral Do you ever bother doing any research? There's plenty of information online if you'd care to inform yourself instead of making petty snarks and jibes about greenwashing

https://www.packaging-gateway.com/news/deposit-return-schemes-in-focus-as-europe-tightens-rules/

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0921344924005536

You're muted now. Bye.

Deposit return schemes in focus as Europe tightens rules

The EU’s tougher recycling laws aim to collect nearly all plastic bottles and cans, supported by a new Deposit Return Scheme Playbook from the beverage industry.

Packaging Gateway

@samueljohnson @matt @aral

And thus everybody crawled back into their own #bubble and noone had learned a thing. But at least, another voice that still got through got muted.
#success #peoplesuck #socialmedia

@s10n @samueljohnson @matt @aral

no, we learned something

we found a classic performance of the "just asking questions" style of trolling on mastodon

@s10n @samueljohnson @matt @aral

"Just asking, guys."

i am familiar with the classic "just asking questions" style of trolling, but i did not expect the troll to just come right out and say that

you need some remedial trolling instruction, your performance is not up to contemporary standards

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_asking_questions

Just asking questions - Wikipedia