Gotta say.. it's a good feeling to login on a social media network without Nazi's and trolls!

No MAGA nutjob in sight and the so called President would be instant banned if he showed his clown face here

 goood stuff Fedi! 

@stux Still think it a great proof of concept that -as far as I know- Truth Social is a fediverse (Mastodon???) implementation (shunned by everyone else)

@photovince Ish yes, they removed federation all together

Otherwise we blocked them to hell

@photovince @stux It's a fork of Mastodon that uses parts of Poast's (a weird right wing Fediverse instance administered by someone who's also involved in Truth Social) UI code as far as I know. They also violated Mastodon's AGPL license multiple times: https://web.archive.org/web/20250318074319/https://www.dailydot.com/debug/truth-social-poast-donald-trump/
https://boehs.org/node/truth-social
https://jasminchen.dev/notes/2024/analysing_the_truthsocial_source_code/
EXCLUSIVE: Leaked DMs reveal Truth Social's close ties to Kiwi Farms successor

Founder claimed Truth Social was 'using the front end built directly on Poast.'

The Daily Dot

@photovince @stux
What the what??? I had no idea it was possible to hate them more than i did 10 minutes ago before i verified they stole the mastodon code base.

Can we sue them please? Do they comply with the mastodon FOSS license?

@TrimTab @photovince @stux Yeah, an early "leak" of a Truth screenshot looked exactly like out-of-the-box Mastodon. Every Fediverse user who saw it recognized it immediately, including me. With the same "What the what?" reaction you just had.

Threats of lawsuits forced some modifications. I honestly have no clue what "Truth" looks like now.

@stux

Not only would the president be banned, i think any instance that accepts to host him would be defederated from most

@stux

I remember a year or so ago when fake (or real, who cares) Elon Musk accounts were trying to get purchase here and got deleted into the sun instantly.

@stux

you can still find #MAGA accounts on the fedi

they are two day old accounts with no followers

and when i find them, i report them, and *poof*

bliss

my only sadness is when, such as yesterday, i hit submit, and i got "record not found"

because in the time between starting and ending my report, a mod had already taken care of them off of other people's reports

and so:

1. thank you #mods and #admins of the #fediverse

2. thank you fellow mastodonics for using that report button

@benroyce @stux

One possibly underappreciated part of fedi is a much higher mod to user ratio than most social media because of the federated design and higher sense of ownership people feel for their instances

@gbargoud @stux

well said

corporate #socialMedia is about making money

this has two terrible effects:

1. #moderation is a cost center for them. if you want to make money, you want to cut costs. therefore, it's cheaper for them to say "freeze peach!", decimate the #mod dept, and let #bigotry and #disinfo run wild

2. we say "don't feed the #trolls" but the unfortunate human baseline behavior is that controversy drives clicks, eyeballs, engagement. therefore, bigots and disinfo is *profitable*

@benroyce @stux

I think this is also why closed but large Facebook groups were good long after Facebook started sucking shit.

Moderation in those groups is volunteer based and driven by a sense of ownership over the community.

@benroyce @gbargoud @stux I wonder if point 2 is why the NYT has the it of printing such trollish opinion pieces (I'm pretty sure it's been doing this since long before the Internet came along)

@eigen @gbargoud @stux

That and traditional media is dying

The plutocrats buy them out, plant their stooges in the managing editors desks, and they flip it to Fox News lite

@gbargoud @benroyce @stux Well said. I would also add control.

@benroyce how odd, mods will just ban peeps if they claim to like the US president?

That seems completely batshit, can I get people insta banned for simping for democrats? That's really annoying here.

America seems the problem from what I can see, plebs arguing over red or blue lies from the war machine, and sex abuse machine, is sad to see in action.

@jamoquanty

#MAGA is ignorance and indecency

so you're shifting the topic

we simply don't want to deal with "WHAT IS A WOMAN" or "VACCINES KILL" lying malicious shit

that this cuts out #trump enjoyers is happenstance, not the main point

it's not our fault the average donald trump cultist is a bigot and a moron

and you know that, and you don't care

or you hilariously believe there is anything honest and well-intentioned in MAGA land

MAGA is stupid bigoted losers, patsies for a grift

@benroyce @jamoquanty $5 jamo loves spouting "bOtH sIdEs!!!11!!11shiftplus one"

@MasterMischief @jamoquanty

fucking zombie MAGA chuds

no idea what easy marks they are for plutocrat grift

so happy to see bigotry prevail

too fucking stupid to see how they are used to their own detriment

and they think they are "winning"

grand tragedy as farce

@benroyce @MasterMischief I don't think I'm a maga chud.

Trump's a known fuckwit long before his venture into US politics, that he's the best the US can offer twice now says rather a lot imo.

The issue not so much what colour of lies your prefer on the telly, and more just the idea that 50% of the US are insta banned as fucktwits on the fediverse.

If that's the case then insgtabanning anyone pushing blue lies from the US administration might make this place a little more balanced.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

"Trump's a known fuckwit long before his venture into US politics, that he's the best the US can offer twice now says rather a lot imo."

i stopped reading here

trump is president because he was voted in

who voted him in?

so what is the root problem?

do you understand?

you think you're successfully topic shifting here away from MAGA by stupidly, or as a stupid troll maneuver, avoiding their obvious blame for delivering this shit?

@benroyce @MasterMischief is calling millions of people zombies not a little dehumanizing?

It's what we called flag shaggers here as kids in school, but seems a little uncouth round these parts.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

is calling a moronic bigot a moronic bigot unfair?

if you say so

i don't say so

your comment is simply a demonstration of your idiocy, or more likely, your dishonesty

so i won't call you dumb, i'll call you a weak troll

@benroyce @MasterMischief Calling Trump a moronic bigot is fine, dude loves the attention.

Labeling millions upon millions of voters that have choice a between red or blue lies in the US bigots seems profoundly stupid, full on 'MERICA' nimby shit.

I don't care if you call me a weak troll, you are helping me to understand the nuts & bolts of this US politics fueled echo chamber.

I can chant 'orange man bad' with the best of them, but how these spaces evolve is of interest.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

i still don't understand you

donald trump is president because millions voted for him (or didn't vote, but that's another topic)

why do you think that pretending there is no cause and effect here has probative value?

at best, you're simply demonstrating, and sticking to, a weak troll maneuver

at worst, you genuinely believe the pieces of shit that gave us donald trump are magically immune from criticism for that choice

why do you think that weak maneuver works?

@benroyce @MasterMischief again you are talking about fellow humans as pieces of shit, you are viewing those that don't swallow whatever politics you currently like as sub-human, or even sub-life.

I think Leo is is worse than Trump tbh, but I'm not gonna call every Roman Catholic a piece of shit moron.

Trump's big promise was no stupid foreign wars, but Trump's opinion about as relevant as yours for the war machine.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

😂

my problem is i LOVE trolls

they're stupid, and fun

someone who is not familiar with your style of trolling would get angry and address your desperate grab bag of topic changes

bullshit hilarious assumptions that are only about you

allowing you to gloat as you run the game

it's quite simple how to handle your troll maneuver:

stick to the topic

do people who voted for trump deserve blame for trump?

yes or no

don't do the troll dance my friend, answer that

@benroyce @MasterMischief

Different to the blood on the hands of anyone that has voted for US blue lies from the US war machine over the past few decades?

Seems like me saying anyone that voted Tory or Farrage here are no longer human instead of trying to understand how the fuck we got into this mess and why people prefer more blunt lies these days.

Americans deserve Trump: they built a system custom fit for him and he's winning it.

Change the system, attack the war machine.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

how do you attack the war machine?

rush US military bases?

lead the charge!

😂

no

what you do is you vote in the primaries, you get more mamdanis. you sustain. you eventually take over the govt

your problem is you look at the usa as a monolith

that's lazy bigotry

i myself criticize russia but never go after average russians (even though many are ethnofascists)

i even push back on those who do

if russia is to change we need those allies in russia

do you see?

@benroyce @MasterMischief Put the two party system in the bin.

If you look at the past few decades of warfare, financial corruption and stuff like the Epstein files it becomes rather clear it doesn't matter who is in charge: the wheels keep turning and they are fed on flesh and suffering.

Considering applying your Russian attitude to the USA: Never go after average US peeps or accounts, push back on those who do. If America needs to change, we need the people.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

"Put the two party system in the bin"

i stopped reading here

HOW

you can't sit there in your mind palace and make pointless declarations

that doesn't mean shit

you need to actually go out and make it happen

which means we vote in the current shitty system, to put people in place to give us the better system

stop being an edgelord vibing with:

"this is wrong!" {thought process terminated}

you need to then go out and fucking fix it with a coherent plan

@benroyce @MasterMischief best of luck with whatever you are doing, if you can get Trump in jail that would awesome, we are working on Prince Andrew.

But, that's the second time you've said you are not capable of reading an entire toot which is so completely bizarre to me I suspect I am now just addressing the aether. If you are still hanging on in there like the shit bit at the end of return of the king, have a nice day.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

i am having an excellent day because i'm entertaining myself at your expense

you're defending MAGA, which has given us all of the shit you complain about

🤪

so all i see before me is a weak, incoherent troll. you suck. and no, i'm not going to read all of your comments, because your "thoughts" are shit. i'm going to encounter a glob of shit, stop reading, pick it out, and laugh at it. and continue on my merry way

stop being such a weak ass fucking troll

@benroyce @MasterMischief I'm not defending MAGA.

You seem to know it's all a farce from your comments above.

Trump won, but you don't trust the election. So if your team wins, that will also be a farce.

It's a system where winning or losing doesn't even matter, the losers just claim the winners are dirty liars and it rolls along like WWF does.

@jamoquanty @MasterMischief

"I'm not defending MAGA."

again, my dear friend, i stopped reading here

look:

https://mastodon.social/@jamoquanty/116686335573289420

are you on drugs? do you have some sort of dementia you can't keep track of your own statements?

or, most likely, you're a troll, and you're bad at it

@benroyce @MasterMischief

That's not defending MAGA.

I'm not defending Sunni Islam, IDF, Roman Catholicism, LDS, Scientology, Democrats or the people that voted for Keir Starmer...I may not agree with them but civil discourse and understanding those I don't see eye to eye with can be worthwhile.

Your attitude explains a lot for me regarding this ecosystem. You are proactively hunting, eradicating and dehumanizing anything you don't vibe with without even reading or attempting to understand.

@jamoquanty @benroyce @MasterMischief "they built"..
No. It was built. All you need do is read Hayak to Heritage econ and polisci history.
And always useful to remember it was the Republicans who introduced legislation to ban critical thinking in k-12 curricula.

Similar effects of messaging that credulous portion of the populace are seen in Sowell's _Visions_, aimed at psuedo-intellectuals and the FF corps hiring PR spokesmen and astroturfed orgs to answer IPCC reports.

@stux

And thank you for great moderation on coffee social etc!   

I never get 💩 in my coffee!

@stux There may not be any visible Nazi trolls other than on a few instances most other instances defederated a long time ago, but there are right-wing bastards on the Fediverse who stay below the radar, they're using large instances and not really breaking the rules so the mods can't kick them out. And they're following many leftists, archiving and screenshooting our posts, making lists, reporting people to the cops.

If you want a real safe space on the Internet, you need to build a darknet one, running on hidden services only accessible through networks like Tor or I2P, where everyone is anonymous.

@LordCaramac @stux No public social network online (even a friendly well run one like most of Fedi) is a "safe space" for discussing anything controversial that could get you in major trouble from cops or other authorities, at least in a way where you could be easily identified..

When I was helping run a globally popular rave / drugs harm reduction site I had to constantly warn folk not to incriminate themselves - as you correctly point out those who disagree with what you are doing can quietly monitor a community and report what they find (in the same way that left activists sometimes infiltrate right wing orgs social media groups)

@stux Well, well, that's great, particularly for you.
I've just crossed with a tooter, that I've felt compelled to leave a <note to self> "Damn! That's very reform" [UK].
@stux I daily find, report and block Russian trolling accounts. They certainly try to enshitify Mastodon.
@stux But I would really love to become famous and this seems to be impossible here. 😥

@stux
Careful.

In my experience the Fediverse already has Russian influencer trolls.

Considering that in some countries it's already the leading short message social media platform, that's not surprising that Putin's hybrid war artillery has broken re-aligned onto the new target.