So if I understand correctly:

The IETF TLS-WG and Last-Call mailing lists be like:

  • Concern-trolling over vague process stuff in order to drag an informational, recommended=N RFC draft into a quagmire to prevent an RFC number from being allocated? OK.
  • Citing a celebrated rapist as a supporter of your objection? OK.
  • Being said rapist and participating in the mailing list to the detriment to anyone that might feel unsafe by your presence? OK.

Me pointing out that Jacob Appelbaum is a rapist? Whoa now, that's a bridge too far. Gotta censor that!

Me replying to one of the moderators who objected to my initial reply with my "Hug?" sticker: "The worst in people".

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/ApZbYc1ZFRWqWQ4MFM2ATCKvOqc/

Or at least, Bron Gondwana, CEO of Fastmail, seems to think so.

(The other IETF moderators weren't jerks about it, but Bron was.)

Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20260519154604/https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/ApZbYc1ZFRWqWQ4MFM2ATCKvOqc/

(EDIT: DJB was briefly moderated, but IESG overturned it.)

Jacob Appelbaum rape report

In May 2016, the Tor project blog announced that Jacob Appelbaum was stepping down from the project. Appelbaum, who often uses the handle "ioerror", is a longtime member of the information security community and supporter of Julian Assange. Shortly afterward, multiple Tor developers publicly accused Appelbaum of rape. On May 24, @puellavulnerata tweeted "A precommitment:", followed by a hexadecimal string. [1] On June 2, @puellavulnerata revealed that the previously-tweeted string was the...

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@soatok I feel like "CEO of a company whose entire existence depends on every lazy moron running an SMTP server blindly adhering to decades of outdated advice about RBLs" ought to be a disqualifying factor in any seat at IETF.
@BalooUriza @soatok could you expand on this? I'm currently using FastMail and would like to know if I need to (once again) find a new provider

@shadow53 Bad late-90s to early-00s advice to always blackhole certain entire networks (instead of weighing the source with other factors) is a massive barrier for entry to hosting your own SMTP server that Fastmail (along with every other mail hosting provider) directly benefit from.

@soatok

@BalooUriza Gotcha. So relying on the fact that self-hosted email has issues sending/receiving emails. Yeah, that's basically why I use Fastmail -- reliability and avoiding the sysadmin workload.

Thanks for clarifying!

@soatok